To our Fellow Patriot:
For the past few weeks, we have heard what many people believe as the “truth” behind the issues surrounding the ZTE-National Broadband Network controversy. The latest witness in the Senate investigation into this issue, former Philippine Forest Corp. president Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada, has come out with damning statements against several personalities supposedly involved in getting the ZTE-NBN contract overpriced to the detriment of the Filipino people.
Jun Lozada has been commended and hailed as a “hero” for testifying before the Senate about the details he supposedly knows about the ZTE-NBN deal. He has portrayed himself as a helpless victim caught in the crossfire of this scandal who was left with no choice but to tell the “truth.”
But is it really the truth that we are hearing? Is Lozada’s “truth” as unblemished as he claims it to be, or is it tainted by his interpretation of events to suit his needs and purposes? Is he the soft-spoken, helpless victim as he portrays himself to be?
What is happening now involves the future of our nation We cannot allow half-truths or twisted versions of the truth to prevail and set off a political crisis where the Filipino people will end up as the ultimate losers because they have been deprived of what they need to know and misled by so-called “reluctant heroes.”
We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth. A patriot for truth does not seek to save his soul but ends up saving his hide. A patriot for truth is one who is willing to face and accept the truth whoever gets hurt, whatever its outcome.
The clips that you are about to hear forms only the first part of our mission. We will continue to seek the truth and expose it to the public. We will remain relentless in our mission. Expect more of the truth to come out in the following days.
Be not afraid of the truth!
PATRIOTS FOR TRUTH
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Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Many would really attack PGMA because they believe in all these news, and they feel her wrath. If she's really corrupted, then let the anti-PGMA/pro-Lozada make her fall into the 9th ring with Satan and Judas from her office.
Those who are skeptical about Mr. J-Lo are the anti-Lozadas and the pro-GMA. If he is truly lying, then let the pro-GMA ask questions at him so he may step down at the pedestal of fame and honor.
-Mr. Lozada lied to his wife,
Mrs. Arroyo lied to the people
-Mr. Lozada collected P200K from JDVII,
Mrs. Arroyo collected $41M from the ZTE contract
-Mr. Lozada said he never had close contact with JDVIII,
Mrs. Arroyo said she never invested in any of her projects
-Mr. Lozada said he tells the truth,
Mrs. Arroyo said she's a good economist but not an astute politician
I don't care whatever happens to this. I'm fine with PGMA's projects (but sill she cheated on us).
I don't care if Lozada testifies. Let him what he has to say (but the sound clips of him on the phone make me doubt about his honesty).
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
Anonymous said...
MGA BAYANI NG BAYAN!
JOSE RIZAL: "Mamamatay akong di man lang nasisilayan ang bukang-liwayway."
BENIGNO AQUINO: "The Filipino is worth dying for."
JUN LOZADA: "Hello, Joey? Putangina..."
Ash said...
Geez, some people believe Lozada's words like gospel truth! Kaya wala ng pag-asa ang bayan natin. Basta against the government kahit di sure na katotohanan pinagpipilitan na tutoo! As if they have evidence to prove their claims. Maswerte kayo at si GMA ang presidente. Kahit anong mura niyo sa kanya di niya kayo pinapatulan. Kung nasa panahon kayo ni Marcos baka di kayo makapagsalita ng ganyan. Yun ang panahon na pinasara ang mga diyaryo against the government, pati radio stations, kinulong si Ninoy, Diokno, Joker Arroyo at iba pa. Yung me curfew for more than 10 years. At yung ke Erap di ba suspect siya sa pagpatay ke Dacer at yung sa Kuratong Baleleng? Sila ni Lacson! Isipin niyo ang kapakanan ng bayan bago kayo maniwala.
NATATAWA AKO SA MGA FORMER SENIOR OFFICIALS!!
I am sure this former government officials are also a bunch of corrupt people... maybe mayroong isa o dalawang hindi.. pero karamihan im sure ay corrupt...
Kung ginawa lang sana nyo yung mga trabaho nyo nang mabuti while nandun kayo sa pwesto... d na sana marami problema sa ating gobyerno ngayon...
HAHAY kala mo sinong santo't santa mga putaninang former executives na ito..
Pati mga madre parang di nakapag-aral... utak skwater....
Wenceslao: People bashing
By Bong O. Wenceslao
Candid Thoughts
IT seems like the fashion of leaders in the recent wave of protest actions against the Arroyo administration is to bash those who refuse to join them in the streets. I say that there is both arrogance and a failure to understand the sentiment of the many to this act. This is the reason why despite the onslaught the Arroyo government has survived.
How often have we heard, for example, self-appointed “guardians” of civility in government (so-called civil society), supposed ideologues and unabashed trapos (political opposition) blame the “indifferent” segment of the population for their failure to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? That is one classic example of passing the buck.
It's as if only they are capable of assessing the national situation, evaluating the nature and character of the Arroyo administration, laying down strategies and tactics of struggle and, most importantly mapping out the future for this country. In their arrogance, they think that people who stay in the sidelines are either naïve or less principled.
These people are the main purveyors of the black versus white (no pun intended) standpoint. They reduce a complicated setup into simplistic and dangerous (because it borders on fanaticism) terms. They want people to believe that only the antis are the possessors of integrity and truth and everything that others, like Malacañang, does is bad.
Nothing is objective in a black-and-white mindset. Here's an example. A more realistic appraisal of the character of witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. is that he is a product of the corrupt setup that he has exposed through the national broadband network (NBN) deal. But look at what the anti-Arroyos are virtually making him: a superstar and saint.
A scene in last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City provides us with another view of this weakness. When former president Joseph Estrada joined former president Cory Aquino on the stage, the decent minority walked away, hurt by the irony of a convicted plunderer leading what was essentially an anti-corruption undertaking.
But what did a leader of a militant group, who should have known better, say? He wanted his comrades in struggle to forget Estrada's sins for the greater goal of toppling the Arroyo government. I was shocked. The message was that, to paraphrase Deng Xiaopeng, it does not matter whether a cat is black or white as long as it fights Arroyo.
The claim to righteousness is partly the cause of this people bashing. Those who think they are the sole possessors of integrity and truth view others with jaundiced eyes. They criticize, sometimes with so much vitriol, those who do not toe their line. They overlook the possibility that maybe the “indifferent” understands the situation better.
Maybe the “indifferent” has, like the child in the fable, seen that the “emperor” (leaders of the struggle) is naked: that he does not have a better alternative to offer once Arroyo is ousted. Maybe the “indifferent” has seen through the claim of purity of purpose of those leading the struggle; that in their midst are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Malilong: Motives of those agitating People Power
By Frank Malilong
The Other Side
SOMETHING I read in yesterday’s issue of the Philippine Star nearly made me fall off my seat.
It was about pardoned plunderer Erap Estrada claiming that he is not only ready but has the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo if and when. His basis? Former president Cory Aquino’s “admission” that Edsa 2 was a mistake. Aquino, if you will recall, shared the stage with Erap during the interfaith rally in Makati last week.
“Actually I have the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo because I was unconstitutionally removed,” the deposed President was quoted by the Star. “They said that it is a big mistake and in order to correct that mistake, they should return me to the presidency.”
Of course, Erap isn’t the only one who is ready to assume the presidency. Vice President Noli de Castro has earlier said that he “was not preparing but was prepared” to take over from Mrs. Arroyo.
De Castro’s right to succeed the presidency is at least constitutionally clear and unambiguous. But don’t tell that to constitutionalist Erap who, still according to the Star, said: “The sovereignty lies with the people and the authority resides in them.”
But neither Estrada’s nor de Castro’s idea fit in the post-Arroyo scenario painted by Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, who espouses the creation of a transitional junta that presumably includes a Bayan representative. The junta is supposed to have a lifetime of only six months after which general elections will be held but we all know that in Philippine politics there is no such thing as an absolute guarantee.
Perhaps, we should expand the search for truth to include the motives of those who are now agitating another People Power in order to force Arroyo out of Malacañang.
Interfaith rally: The view from below
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Close this The view from above the interfaith rally on Ayala Avenue in Makati City last Friday was really impressive.
The view from below was quite different.
Because my office has long been on Ayala Avenue (except for the past year when I moved to Herrera Street), I have witnessed all, and took part in some, demonstrations since People Power I in 1986.
The interfaith rally last Friday looked interesting. I decided I would be right in the thick of it. I closed the office at 1 p.m. and sent the staff home. The insurance offices in the neighborhood also shut down at the same time.
I called up some of my neighbors in Bel-Air. None was interested in joining the interfaith rally.
After killing time at the Makati Sports Club, I stood at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Herrera Street at around 5 p.m. As in the past, I wormed my way around the loose fringes of the crowd, chatting with the demonstrators and the vendors.
As usual, the crowd on Ayala Avenue at Paseo de Roxas was almost impenetrable. It was where the students and the colorful flags were massed. I made out the red flags of the communists—Bayan Muna, Akbayan, Gabriela, Sanlakas, Migrante, Partido ng Manggagawa (have I missed anyone?). Ever since they boycotted People Power I and did not share in the glorious victory, the communists have not missed a rally, big or small.
At the fringes were the mercenaries—the so-called “hakot” [hauled-in] crowd. They were the unwashed in rubber sandals. They just sat or milled around, ignoring the speeches. Their warm bodies provided the numbers that looked so impressive in aerial photos.
The mercenaries were there for the money, at P200 per head plus food and transport. For a poor family of five, that was a whopping P1,000 for just showing up.
I would have wanted to escort Cory Aquino to chat with the mercenaries. If she did, she probably would have walked out in tears.
The jeepneys that brought the mercenaries from parts beyond Makati were parked on the side streets. Each jeepney was probably hired at P3,000 for the round trip.
I estimated the crowd at 20,000 maximum. At least 10,000 were there for the money, and only for the money. The total cost, including jeepney rental, amounted to P5 million minimum. Where did the money come from?
I noticed confetti on the sidewalk, but it was a fake. The high-rise buildings were empty. The employees had gone home earlier. The vendors said so. With thousands around, the vending business was slow. As usual, the mercenaries brought their own food and did not buy any of the goodies from the vendors. I bought a bag of “chicharon” snack.
The interfaith rally was a sham, or, at least, half a sham.
After an hour, I went to the main bar of the Makati Sports Club, to kill a bottle of excellent Cabernet Sauvignon offered by Romy R., my drinking and singing buddy. At 9 p.m., we went home. The crowd was gone. Ayala Avenue was back to normal.
When all is said and done, as long as the employees choose to go home, and the residents in the upscale villages prefer to watch the proceedings on high-definition TV, and, most important, if half of the crowd is hauled in for the money, a protest rally on Ayala Avenue, no matter how many faiths take part, no matter how many ex-presidents attend, will come to naught.
No one can fake a People Power Miracle. No one can manipulate Divine Providence. Not even with all the money in the world.
Why humor a rumor?
FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Without a doubt, the dissemination of hearsay — and sadly, the public’s willing acceptance of it — has become part of the Filipino lifestyle since time immemorial. Analogous to an epidemic spreading at a geometric rate, rumor dispersion in our country takes place at any time of the day and in any conceivable venue: within the neighborhood, a classroom, the cafeteria, office cubicles, restrooms, barber shops, or simply where idle minds and blabbermouths gather and lounge.
While in some cases, gossip can be considered constructive (we’ve all heard the cliché “good or bad publicity is still publicity”), this is mostly true for the entertainment industry, which lives and breathes on intrigue. In the real world, the unavoidable outcome of gossip is a trail of ruin and upheaval. Many times in the workplace, for example, tittle-tattle sessions end up making or breaking previously unsullied reputations of either an employer or an employee.
Unfortunately, the very state of our political affairs is currently being shaped by this “so-and-so said this” culture. Hearsay is now taking the place of verifiable evidence and solid proof. This is the compelling point that San Beda Graduate School of Law Dean Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino makes, in a letter he wrote to the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
Fr. Aquino expressed how he found the reactions and aggressive attempts of Archbishop Oscar Cruz, a number of priests and nuns, and militant groups questionable and out of context. Their all-out and categorical support for Jun Lozada has been based solely on perception and personal inkling. Moreover, Aquino points out that Lozada is far from being an unassailable witness, simply because he cannot even justify all the “bombs” he has dropped by himself.
It is true that any lawyer would insist that hearsay cannot stand in the court of law as evidence. It is therefore quite disturbing to see hordes of people clamoring for the President’s resignation, without even pondering if it is logical to fight for a cause that lacks substance. NEDA Chairman Romulo Neri, who is reported to be more involved with the controversial transaction, has consistently denied outright that the President had a direct participation in the cancelled NBN deal. It has therefore become a case of several people telling different versions of the events.
Given this, whom should the public believe? The person who looks the most convincing? The one who cries the most, or has priests and nuns (and a conspicuous Bible) by his side? Perhaps credibility goes to the person wearing the most modest camisa chino, or the one with the meekest demeanor. These things may earn a victory in the court of public opinion, but are completely irrelevant in an actual court of law.
If we rely on these factors as our basis to judge right from wrong, we might as well abolish the justice system. Nowadays, it seems that if someone makes an accusation against you and manages to style himself as a modern-day martyr, then bam! Automatically you’re guilty.
Some people dislike our current President, but surely they can’t deny that the inalienable human rights guaranteed in our Constitution also apply to her. One of these fundamental rights is the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” — and proven in a proper court, mind you. It’s the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation, and given the right ingredients, relatively easy to incite the public to demonstrate in the streets. So, is this how our leaders will be chosen from now on? Frankly, I don’t know which I find more alarming: a presidential couple with an alleged penchant for kickbacks, or a society which determines truth on the basis of perception.
And speaking of the proper forum, the “ongoing-yet-going-nowhere” Senate hearings is the farthest thing from a truth-seeking exercise. Honestly, the level of cheese (the figurative one, not the Senator) in these proceedings has reached sublime levels. Whereas in “ZTE: Season 1”, it was only our Senators who engaged in all sorts of pretentious theatrics, “ZTE: Season 2” has now unveiled a newer, more melodramatic cast. Regardless of whether you take Jun Lozada’s testimony as the gospel truth or not, you have to admit that his method of delivery often borders on being over-the-top.
And by golly, the Senators! Whereas in Season 1, there was at least some semblance of discretion to uphold the “in aid of legislation” statute, Season 2 has done away with any such pretenses, and now openly flaunts its true purpose: hearings in aid of election. As a Filipino voter, your honors, I would like to say that this not what I voted you in office for. My precious ballot was meant for leaders who enact meaningful laws, not those who waste taxpayers’ money in chasing airtime about a cancelled deal.
Thank goodness the next session will no longer be televised. I know this because I heard the neighbor of my computer technician, who happens to be the sister of my second cousin from the States, tell someone in her yoga class that ANC lost the rights to air it. Fortunately, this reached the husband of my officemate, since he happened to be loading gas at the same station that time. And that’s how I know for sure.
I thought they are still in search for the truth
INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
It seems that Tita Cory, former President Joseph “Erap” Estrada and their bevy of misguided nuns and priests and leftist protesters, including the power hungry (and just as greedy) opposition, have already convicted and condemned President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA) for the ZTE scandal and have conducted mass prayer rallies asking her to resign. But the Filipino people have in more ways than one also spoken to them by not coming in the millions to their outdoor prayer rallies to restart another EDSA. By now Tita Cory should have gotten the message from the ordinary Filipino… that they don’t want another EDSA… not anymore!
Perhaps the main reason why the Filipino people have rebuffed Tita Cory’s call comes from this text message that was being sent around: “If Tita Cory, Erap, d bishops, priests and politicians and their cohorts are still searching for the truth, which is the title of their mass actions… therefore they still have not yet found that truth? Hence, logic dictates that since they still do not yet know the truth in the ZTE scandal, why are they handing down their verdict and meting out the penalty even while the investigation is still ongoing? Is this the Christian way of resolving our problems?”
We know that Tita Cory refuses to support Charter changes because the 1987 Constitution is named after her, yet she cannot even find in her heart that her Constitution must be upheld. She is now working for another extra-legal regime change which is why the majority of the Filipino people are not with her on this issue… more so that the testimony of Engr. Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. came from a Senate investigation which is controlled by the opposition. Things might be different if that testimony was done in court!
Over the weekend, I went around Metro Cebu on my bike stopping where I could talk to some people to get their sentiments and feel the pulse of the Cebuanos as to the events happening in the streets of Manila and why Cebuanos are not doing their share of rallies (the Cebu rallies number less than a thousand from the usual militant left) just like during the final months of the conjugal Marcos dictatorship? Could it be because our famous protester Inday Nita Cortes Daluz has already died and can no longer march with us?
While most people here supported President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA), however they are dismayed that she has failed to deliver on her one major campaign promise of a shift to federalism. Many people here also believe that her administration is corrupt, but they know that it is the present system that allows for corruption to flourish. Put in Noli de Castro as President and he would have two years to consolidate and solidify his presidency and we’re back to square one! New dog, same collar!
As Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on ANC over the weekend, “Nothing has changed since the EDSA revolt!” Indeed the fight against corruption seems to be so Manila-centered. But in Cebu, we have two major corruption cases that were headlined in our local dailies years ago and given coverage in the national dailies, but those cases still haven’t even reached the courts.
The first case was the Girls Scout fund released by then Rep. Clavel Asas-Martinez of the fifth district where the money allegedly found its way into her personal bank account. This is public money found in a public official’s bank account. This is a simple open-and-shut case as the evidence can be found in a paper trail. Yet the Office of the Ombudsman still hasn’t acted on it in the last four years! Why? Thanks to a centralized system where cases need to be approved in Manila and the perception here is that even the Ombudsman has been bought!
The other very public case is the scam on the lampposts bought for the ASEAN Summit where the Ombudsman, due to public pressure, suspended Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza for six months. Today, just a year after that anomalous purchase, 90 percent of the Chinese-made lampposts are no longer working. But worse of all, the petty criminals who stole a few of these lampposts have been indicted, but the bigger crooks are still scot-free! If you ask me, the bigger scam is that just a year after these posts were bought, they have become useless decorations! This should give you an idea never to buy anything made in China. But there’s just no accountability… nothing!
If Cebuanos are cynical about the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee investigations it is because we know too well that not a single law was enacted that emanated from those supposedly “in aid of legislation” hearings. But they have produced senators out of nobodies; after all, senators are voted at large and today, not a single one of them represents the Visayas or at least the island of Cebu! We want real change ASAP but not regime change!
Mabuhay si Lozada!!!
Jun: hey,joey, putang ina.
Joey: hey,jun, putang ina mo rin.
This recordings are Platinum.
Somebody should make a billion CDs with Lozada-Gollum and JOey-Orcs on the cover and distribute it to everybody.
pake!
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
PCIJ reports are trash and nothing but a smear campaign to discredit the government. Only the government of PGMA graduated out of the IMF debt. Blame Cory's constitution - the main reason why there is economic inequality and not the PGMA's administration that is being held hostage to its flaws. The Cory constitution inhibits the creation of jobs by inhibiting more foreign investments due to ownership issue. The Cory constitution protects only the oligarch members of the Makati Business Club. No matter how many economic gains that the PGMA Admin produced, inequality will continue for as long as Cory's constitution run the economy. Therefore, stop bashing the PGMA Administration.
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
From :
the Insider
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
Nakakatuwa itong blog spot na to. Patunay na ang Pilipino ay pinanganak na PIKON!
Guys, isipin niyo, kung kayo, iilan lang kayo, hindi pa kayo magkasundo, eh lilima lang kayong naguusap diyan, paano pa ninyo mapagiisa ang bayan natin?
We Filipinos love to complain but none of us want to be men of action.
We are probably all familiar with the quotation from Edmund Burke- "All that is necessary for the triumph of EVIL is that good men do nothing".
I am not calling anyone names here, just a reminder to look at what is happening. WE HAVE BEEN DIVIDED AS A PEOPLE. INSTEAD OF GOVERNMENT ACTING AS AN IMPETUS TO UNITE AND UPLIFT THE WELL-BEING OF OUR PEOPLE, THE RESOURCES OF THE GOVERNMENT ARE BEING USED TO DEFEND THE INSTITUTION OF THE PRESIDENCY (and rightfully so).
Point is... Evil abounds! While we are divided as a people, we will be more ripe for the picking by foreign powers that be. Let's go back in time and look at what the Spanish conquestidores did to our culture. They taught us how to hate and doubt each other as Filipinos. It was implanted in our "kayumangi" genes that we must attack and destroy each other because we cannot TRUST kapwa Filipinos. That is the reason why we remained under Spanish rule for almost 400 years. The Americans did the same for 40 years.
Today, nothing has changed! While we argue and protest about the wrongdoings of "kapwa Pinoys," the foreign players are laughing at us! Ask around who are the biggest investors in the country today. Its the Chinese! The Americans have moved in comfortably in Mindanao! Call the Mines and Geosciences Bureau and find out who are the operators of the Mining Areas that have been granted permits in the past 5 years! All the big mines are not Filipino owned. They are Foreign Firms, raping our land, giving us loose change and a barren wasteland in return of our hospitality. We are falling into the trap of the foreign powers! Tama na!
Kung Pilipino kayo at gusto niyong gumanda ang bayan natin, magkaintindihan nalang tayo... and it all starts by respecting each others points of view. Name calling and the like have never been proven to be constructive.
God save us.
The PCIJ journalists are trying to hide the truth on economic inequality by discrediting the gains of PGMA Administration and omitting to report the flaws that is the Cory Constitution - the inhibiting factor to real economic growth. Economists know that economic freedom can only be obtained by amending the Cory Constitution, yet the PCIJ is the number one critic of constitutional amendment, even if the purpose is for purely economics reasons. It's obvious that they have contradicting motives. What a bunch of deceivers. You can't hide your true colors dimwit.
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
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Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
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YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Many would really attack PGMA because they believe in all these news, and they feel her wrath. If she's really corrupted, then let the anti-PGMA/pro-Lozada make her fall into the 9th ring with Satan and Judas from her office.
Those who are skeptical about Mr. J-Lo are the anti-Lozadas and the pro-GMA. If he is truly lying, then let the pro-GMA ask questions at him so he may step down at the pedestal of fame and honor.
-Mr. Lozada lied to his wife,
Mrs. Arroyo lied to the people
-Mr. Lozada collected P200K from JDVII,
Mrs. Arroyo collected $41M from the ZTE contract
-Mr. Lozada said he never had close contact with JDVIII,
Mrs. Arroyo said she never invested in any of her projects
-Mr. Lozada said he tells the truth,
Mrs. Arroyo said she's a good economist but not an astute politician
I don't care whatever happens to this. I'm fine with PGMA's projects (but sill she cheated on us).
I don't care if Lozada testifies. Let him what he has to say (but the sound clips of him on the phone make me doubt about his honesty).
March 6, 2008 6:06 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
MGA BAYANI NG BAYAN!
JOSE RIZAL: "Mamamatay akong di man lang nasisilayan ang bukang-liwayway."
BENIGNO AQUINO: "The Filipino is worth dying for."
JUN LOZADA: "Hello, Joey? Putangina..."
March 6, 2008 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Ash said...
Geez, some people believe Lozada's words like gospel truth! Kaya wala ng pag-asa ang bayan natin. Basta against the government kahit di sure na katotohanan pinagpipilitan na tutoo! As if they have evidence to prove their claims. Maswerte kayo at si GMA ang presidente. Kahit anong mura niyo sa kanya di niya kayo pinapatulan. Kung nasa panahon kayo ni Marcos baka di kayo makapagsalita ng ganyan. Yun ang panahon na pinasara ang mga diyaryo against the government, pati radio stations, kinulong si Ninoy, Diokno, Joker Arroyo at iba pa. Yung me curfew for more than 10 years. At yung ke Erap di ba suspect siya sa pagpatay ke Dacer at yung sa Kuratong Baleleng? Sila ni Lacson! Isipin niyo ang kapakanan ng bayan bago kayo maniwala.
March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
Jun Lozadas Kabit said...
NATATAWA AKO SA MGA FORMER SENIOR OFFICIALS!!
I am sure this former government officials are also a bunch of corrupt people... maybe mayroong isa o dalawang hindi.. pero karamihan im sure ay corrupt...
Kung ginawa lang sana nyo yung mga trabaho nyo nang mabuti while nandun kayo sa pwesto... d na sana marami problema sa ating gobyerno ngayon...
HAHAY kala mo sinong santo't santa mga putaninang former executives na ito..
Pati mga madre parang di nakapag-aral... utak skwater....
March 6, 2008 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...
Wenceslao: People bashing
By Bong O. Wenceslao
Candid Thoughts
IT seems like the fashion of leaders in the recent wave of protest actions against the Arroyo administration is to bash those who refuse to join them in the streets. I say that there is both arrogance and a failure to understand the sentiment of the many to this act. This is the reason why despite the onslaught the Arroyo government has survived.
How often have we heard, for example, self-appointed “guardians” of civility in government (so-called civil society), supposed ideologues and unabashed trapos (political opposition) blame the “indifferent” segment of the population for their failure to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? That is one classic example of passing the buck.
It's as if only they are capable of assessing the national situation, evaluating the nature and character of the Arroyo administration, laying down strategies and tactics of struggle and, most importantly mapping out the future for this country. In their arrogance, they think that people who stay in the sidelines are either naïve or less principled.
These people are the main purveyors of the black versus white (no pun intended) standpoint. They reduce a complicated setup into simplistic and dangerous (because it borders on fanaticism) terms. They want people to believe that only the antis are the possessors of integrity and truth and everything that others, like Malacañang, does is bad.
Nothing is objective in a black-and-white mindset. Here's an example. A more realistic appraisal of the character of witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. is that he is a product of the corrupt setup that he has exposed through the national broadband network (NBN) deal. But look at what the anti-Arroyos are virtually making him: a superstar and saint.
A scene in last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City provides us with another view of this weakness. When former president Joseph Estrada joined former president Cory Aquino on the stage, the decent minority walked away, hurt by the irony of a convicted plunderer leading what was essentially an anti-corruption undertaking.
But what did a leader of a militant group, who should have known better, say? He wanted his comrades in struggle to forget Estrada's sins for the greater goal of toppling the Arroyo government. I was shocked. The message was that, to paraphrase Deng Xiaopeng, it does not matter whether a cat is black or white as long as it fights Arroyo.
The claim to righteousness is partly the cause of this people bashing. Those who think they are the sole possessors of integrity and truth view others with jaundiced eyes. They criticize, sometimes with so much vitriol, those who do not toe their line. They overlook the possibility that maybe the “indifferent” understands the situation better.
Maybe the “indifferent” has, like the child in the fable, seen that the “emperor” (leaders of the struggle) is naked: that he does not have a better alternative to offer once Arroyo is ousted. Maybe the “indifferent” has seen through the claim of purity of purpose of those leading the struggle; that in their midst are wolves in sheep's clothing.
March 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Malilong: Motives of those agitating People Power
By Frank Malilong
The Other Side
SOMETHING I read in yesterday’s issue of the Philippine Star nearly made me fall off my seat.
It was about pardoned plunderer Erap Estrada claiming that he is not only ready but has the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo if and when. His basis? Former president Cory Aquino’s “admission” that Edsa 2 was a mistake. Aquino, if you will recall, shared the stage with Erap during the interfaith rally in Makati last week.
“Actually I have the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo because I was unconstitutionally removed,” the deposed President was quoted by the Star. “They said that it is a big mistake and in order to correct that mistake, they should return me to the presidency.”
Of course, Erap isn’t the only one who is ready to assume the presidency. Vice President Noli de Castro has earlier said that he “was not preparing but was prepared” to take over from Mrs. Arroyo.
De Castro’s right to succeed the presidency is at least constitutionally clear and unambiguous. But don’t tell that to constitutionalist Erap who, still according to the Star, said: “The sovereignty lies with the people and the authority resides in them.”
But neither Estrada’s nor de Castro’s idea fit in the post-Arroyo scenario painted by Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, who espouses the creation of a transitional junta that presumably includes a Bayan representative. The junta is supposed to have a lifetime of only six months after which general elections will be held but we all know that in Philippine politics there is no such thing as an absolute guarantee.
Perhaps, we should expand the search for truth to include the motives of those who are now agitating another People Power in order to force Arroyo out of Malacañang.
March 6, 2008 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...
Interfaith rally: The view from below
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Close this The view from above the interfaith rally on Ayala Avenue in Makati City last Friday was really impressive.
The view from below was quite different.
Because my office has long been on Ayala Avenue (except for the past year when I moved to Herrera Street), I have witnessed all, and took part in some, demonstrations since People Power I in 1986.
The interfaith rally last Friday looked interesting. I decided I would be right in the thick of it. I closed the office at 1 p.m. and sent the staff home. The insurance offices in the neighborhood also shut down at the same time.
I called up some of my neighbors in Bel-Air. None was interested in joining the interfaith rally.
After killing time at the Makati Sports Club, I stood at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Herrera Street at around 5 p.m. As in the past, I wormed my way around the loose fringes of the crowd, chatting with the demonstrators and the vendors.
As usual, the crowd on Ayala Avenue at Paseo de Roxas was almost impenetrable. It was where the students and the colorful flags were massed. I made out the red flags of the communists—Bayan Muna, Akbayan, Gabriela, Sanlakas, Migrante, Partido ng Manggagawa (have I missed anyone?). Ever since they boycotted People Power I and did not share in the glorious victory, the communists have not missed a rally, big or small.
At the fringes were the mercenaries—the so-called “hakot” [hauled-in] crowd. They were the unwashed in rubber sandals. They just sat or milled around, ignoring the speeches. Their warm bodies provided the numbers that looked so impressive in aerial photos.
The mercenaries were there for the money, at P200 per head plus food and transport. For a poor family of five, that was a whopping P1,000 for just showing up.
I would have wanted to escort Cory Aquino to chat with the mercenaries. If she did, she probably would have walked out in tears.
The jeepneys that brought the mercenaries from parts beyond Makati were parked on the side streets. Each jeepney was probably hired at P3,000 for the round trip.
I estimated the crowd at 20,000 maximum. At least 10,000 were there for the money, and only for the money. The total cost, including jeepney rental, amounted to P5 million minimum. Where did the money come from?
I noticed confetti on the sidewalk, but it was a fake. The high-rise buildings were empty. The employees had gone home earlier. The vendors said so. With thousands around, the vending business was slow. As usual, the mercenaries brought their own food and did not buy any of the goodies from the vendors. I bought a bag of “chicharon” snack.
The interfaith rally was a sham, or, at least, half a sham.
After an hour, I went to the main bar of the Makati Sports Club, to kill a bottle of excellent Cabernet Sauvignon offered by Romy R., my drinking and singing buddy. At 9 p.m., we went home. The crowd was gone. Ayala Avenue was back to normal.
When all is said and done, as long as the employees choose to go home, and the residents in the upscale villages prefer to watch the proceedings on high-definition TV, and, most important, if half of the crowd is hauled in for the money, a protest rally on Ayala Avenue, no matter how many faiths take part, no matter how many ex-presidents attend, will come to naught.
No one can fake a People Power Miracle. No one can manipulate Divine Providence. Not even with all the money in the world.
March 6, 2008 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...
Why humor a rumor?
FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Without a doubt, the dissemination of hearsay — and sadly, the public’s willing acceptance of it — has become part of the Filipino lifestyle since time immemorial. Analogous to an epidemic spreading at a geometric rate, rumor dispersion in our country takes place at any time of the day and in any conceivable venue: within the neighborhood, a classroom, the cafeteria, office cubicles, restrooms, barber shops, or simply where idle minds and blabbermouths gather and lounge.
While in some cases, gossip can be considered constructive (we’ve all heard the cliché “good or bad publicity is still publicity”), this is mostly true for the entertainment industry, which lives and breathes on intrigue. In the real world, the unavoidable outcome of gossip is a trail of ruin and upheaval. Many times in the workplace, for example, tittle-tattle sessions end up making or breaking previously unsullied reputations of either an employer or an employee.
Unfortunately, the very state of our political affairs is currently being shaped by this “so-and-so said this” culture. Hearsay is now taking the place of verifiable evidence and solid proof. This is the compelling point that San Beda Graduate School of Law Dean Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino makes, in a letter he wrote to the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
Fr. Aquino expressed how he found the reactions and aggressive attempts of Archbishop Oscar Cruz, a number of priests and nuns, and militant groups questionable and out of context. Their all-out and categorical support for Jun Lozada has been based solely on perception and personal inkling. Moreover, Aquino points out that Lozada is far from being an unassailable witness, simply because he cannot even justify all the “bombs” he has dropped by himself.
It is true that any lawyer would insist that hearsay cannot stand in the court of law as evidence. It is therefore quite disturbing to see hordes of people clamoring for the President’s resignation, without even pondering if it is logical to fight for a cause that lacks substance. NEDA Chairman Romulo Neri, who is reported to be more involved with the controversial transaction, has consistently denied outright that the President had a direct participation in the cancelled NBN deal. It has therefore become a case of several people telling different versions of the events.
Given this, whom should the public believe? The person who looks the most convincing? The one who cries the most, or has priests and nuns (and a conspicuous Bible) by his side? Perhaps credibility goes to the person wearing the most modest camisa chino, or the one with the meekest demeanor. These things may earn a victory in the court of public opinion, but are completely irrelevant in an actual court of law.
If we rely on these factors as our basis to judge right from wrong, we might as well abolish the justice system. Nowadays, it seems that if someone makes an accusation against you and manages to style himself as a modern-day martyr, then bam! Automatically you’re guilty.
Some people dislike our current President, but surely they can’t deny that the inalienable human rights guaranteed in our Constitution also apply to her. One of these fundamental rights is the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” — and proven in a proper court, mind you. It’s the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation, and given the right ingredients, relatively easy to incite the public to demonstrate in the streets. So, is this how our leaders will be chosen from now on? Frankly, I don’t know which I find more alarming: a presidential couple with an alleged penchant for kickbacks, or a society which determines truth on the basis of perception.
And speaking of the proper forum, the “ongoing-yet-going-nowhere” Senate hearings is the farthest thing from a truth-seeking exercise. Honestly, the level of cheese (the figurative one, not the Senator) in these proceedings has reached sublime levels. Whereas in “ZTE: Season 1”, it was only our Senators who engaged in all sorts of pretentious theatrics, “ZTE: Season 2” has now unveiled a newer, more melodramatic cast. Regardless of whether you take Jun Lozada’s testimony as the gospel truth or not, you have to admit that his method of delivery often borders on being over-the-top.
And by golly, the Senators! Whereas in Season 1, there was at least some semblance of discretion to uphold the “in aid of legislation” statute, Season 2 has done away with any such pretenses, and now openly flaunts its true purpose: hearings in aid of election. As a Filipino voter, your honors, I would like to say that this not what I voted you in office for. My precious ballot was meant for leaders who enact meaningful laws, not those who waste taxpayers’ money in chasing airtime about a cancelled deal.
Thank goodness the next session will no longer be televised. I know this because I heard the neighbor of my computer technician, who happens to be the sister of my second cousin from the States, tell someone in her yoga class that ANC lost the rights to air it. Fortunately, this reached the husband of my officemate, since he happened to be loading gas at the same station that time. And that’s how I know for sure.
March 6, 2008 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...
I thought they are still in search for the truth
INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
It seems that Tita Cory, former President Joseph “Erap” Estrada and their bevy of misguided nuns and priests and leftist protesters, including the power hungry (and just as greedy) opposition, have already convicted and condemned President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA) for the ZTE scandal and have conducted mass prayer rallies asking her to resign. But the Filipino people have in more ways than one also spoken to them by not coming in the millions to their outdoor prayer rallies to restart another EDSA. By now Tita Cory should have gotten the message from the ordinary Filipino… that they don’t want another EDSA… not anymore!
Perhaps the main reason why the Filipino people have rebuffed Tita Cory’s call comes from this text message that was being sent around: “If Tita Cory, Erap, d bishops, priests and politicians and their cohorts are still searching for the truth, which is the title of their mass actions… therefore they still have not yet found that truth? Hence, logic dictates that since they still do not yet know the truth in the ZTE scandal, why are they handing down their verdict and meting out the penalty even while the investigation is still ongoing? Is this the Christian way of resolving our problems?”
We know that Tita Cory refuses to support Charter changes because the 1987 Constitution is named after her, yet she cannot even find in her heart that her Constitution must be upheld. She is now working for another extra-legal regime change which is why the majority of the Filipino people are not with her on this issue… more so that the testimony of Engr. Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. came from a Senate investigation which is controlled by the opposition. Things might be different if that testimony was done in court!
Over the weekend, I went around Metro Cebu on my bike stopping where I could talk to some people to get their sentiments and feel the pulse of the Cebuanos as to the events happening in the streets of Manila and why Cebuanos are not doing their share of rallies (the Cebu rallies number less than a thousand from the usual militant left) just like during the final months of the conjugal Marcos dictatorship? Could it be because our famous protester Inday Nita Cortes Daluz has already died and can no longer march with us?
While most people here supported President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA), however they are dismayed that she has failed to deliver on her one major campaign promise of a shift to federalism. Many people here also believe that her administration is corrupt, but they know that it is the present system that allows for corruption to flourish. Put in Noli de Castro as President and he would have two years to consolidate and solidify his presidency and we’re back to square one! New dog, same collar!
As Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on ANC over the weekend, “Nothing has changed since the EDSA revolt!” Indeed the fight against corruption seems to be so Manila-centered. But in Cebu, we have two major corruption cases that were headlined in our local dailies years ago and given coverage in the national dailies, but those cases still haven’t even reached the courts.
The first case was the Girls Scout fund released by then Rep. Clavel Asas-Martinez of the fifth district where the money allegedly found its way into her personal bank account. This is public money found in a public official’s bank account. This is a simple open-and-shut case as the evidence can be found in a paper trail. Yet the Office of the Ombudsman still hasn’t acted on it in the last four years! Why? Thanks to a centralized system where cases need to be approved in Manila and the perception here is that even the Ombudsman has been bought!
The other very public case is the scam on the lampposts bought for the ASEAN Summit where the Ombudsman, due to public pressure, suspended Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza for six months. Today, just a year after that anomalous purchase, 90 percent of the Chinese-made lampposts are no longer working. But worse of all, the petty criminals who stole a few of these lampposts have been indicted, but the bigger crooks are still scot-free! If you ask me, the bigger scam is that just a year after these posts were bought, they have become useless decorations! This should give you an idea never to buy anything made in China. But there’s just no accountability… nothing!
If Cebuanos are cynical about the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee investigations it is because we know too well that not a single law was enacted that emanated from those supposedly “in aid of legislation” hearings. But they have produced senators out of nobodies; after all, senators are voted at large and today, not a single one of them represents the Visayas or at least the island of Cebu! We want real change ASAP but not regime change!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Many would really attack PGMA because they believe in all these news, and they feel her wrath. If she's really corrupted, then let the anti-PGMA/pro-Lozada make her fall into the 9th ring with Satan and Judas from her office.
Those who are skeptical about Mr. J-Lo are the anti-Lozadas and the pro-GMA. If he is truly lying, then let the pro-GMA ask questions at him so he may step down at the pedestal of fame and honor.
-Mr. Lozada lied to his wife,
Mrs. Arroyo lied to the people
-Mr. Lozada collected P200K from JDVII,
Mrs. Arroyo collected $41M from the ZTE contract
-Mr. Lozada said he never had close contact with JDVIII,
Mrs. Arroyo said she never invested in any of her projects
-Mr. Lozada said he tells the truth,
Mrs. Arroyo said she's a good economist but not an astute politician
I don't care whatever happens to this. I'm fine with PGMA's projects (but sill she cheated on us).
I don't care if Lozada testifies. Let him what he has to say (but the sound clips of him on the phone make me doubt about his honesty).
March 6, 2008 6:06 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
MGA BAYANI NG BAYAN!
JOSE RIZAL: "Mamamatay akong di man lang nasisilayan ang bukang-liwayway."
BENIGNO AQUINO: "The Filipino is worth dying for."
JUN LOZADA: "Hello, Joey? Putangina..."
March 6, 2008 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Ash said...
Geez, some people believe Lozada's words like gospel truth! Kaya wala ng pag-asa ang bayan natin. Basta against the government kahit di sure na katotohanan pinagpipilitan na tutoo! As if they have evidence to prove their claims. Maswerte kayo at si GMA ang presidente. Kahit anong mura niyo sa kanya di niya kayo pinapatulan. Kung nasa panahon kayo ni Marcos baka di kayo makapagsalita ng ganyan. Yun ang panahon na pinasara ang mga diyaryo against the government, pati radio stations, kinulong si Ninoy, Diokno, Joker Arroyo at iba pa. Yung me curfew for more than 10 years. At yung ke Erap di ba suspect siya sa pagpatay ke Dacer at yung sa Kuratong Baleleng? Sila ni Lacson! Isipin niyo ang kapakanan ng bayan bago kayo maniwala.
March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
Jun Lozadas Kabit said...
NATATAWA AKO SA MGA FORMER SENIOR OFFICIALS!!
I am sure this former government officials are also a bunch of corrupt people... maybe mayroong isa o dalawang hindi.. pero karamihan im sure ay corrupt...
Kung ginawa lang sana nyo yung mga trabaho nyo nang mabuti while nandun kayo sa pwesto... d na sana marami problema sa ating gobyerno ngayon...
HAHAY kala mo sinong santo't santa mga putaninang former executives na ito..
Pati mga madre parang di nakapag-aral... utak skwater....
March 6, 2008 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...
Wenceslao: People bashing
By Bong O. Wenceslao
Candid Thoughts
IT seems like the fashion of leaders in the recent wave of protest actions against the Arroyo administration is to bash those who refuse to join them in the streets. I say that there is both arrogance and a failure to understand the sentiment of the many to this act. This is the reason why despite the onslaught the Arroyo government has survived.
How often have we heard, for example, self-appointed “guardians” of civility in government (so-called civil society), supposed ideologues and unabashed trapos (political opposition) blame the “indifferent” segment of the population for their failure to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? That is one classic example of passing the buck.
It's as if only they are capable of assessing the national situation, evaluating the nature and character of the Arroyo administration, laying down strategies and tactics of struggle and, most importantly mapping out the future for this country. In their arrogance, they think that people who stay in the sidelines are either naïve or less principled.
These people are the main purveyors of the black versus white (no pun intended) standpoint. They reduce a complicated setup into simplistic and dangerous (because it borders on fanaticism) terms. They want people to believe that only the antis are the possessors of integrity and truth and everything that others, like Malacañang, does is bad.
Nothing is objective in a black-and-white mindset. Here's an example. A more realistic appraisal of the character of witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. is that he is a product of the corrupt setup that he has exposed through the national broadband network (NBN) deal. But look at what the anti-Arroyos are virtually making him: a superstar and saint.
A scene in last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City provides us with another view of this weakness. When former president Joseph Estrada joined former president Cory Aquino on the stage, the decent minority walked away, hurt by the irony of a convicted plunderer leading what was essentially an anti-corruption undertaking.
But what did a leader of a militant group, who should have known better, say? He wanted his comrades in struggle to forget Estrada's sins for the greater goal of toppling the Arroyo government. I was shocked. The message was that, to paraphrase Deng Xiaopeng, it does not matter whether a cat is black or white as long as it fights Arroyo.
The claim to righteousness is partly the cause of this people bashing. Those who think they are the sole possessors of integrity and truth view others with jaundiced eyes. They criticize, sometimes with so much vitriol, those who do not toe their line. They overlook the possibility that maybe the “indifferent” understands the situation better.
Maybe the “indifferent” has, like the child in the fable, seen that the “emperor” (leaders of the struggle) is naked: that he does not have a better alternative to offer once Arroyo is ousted. Maybe the “indifferent” has seen through the claim of purity of purpose of those leading the struggle; that in their midst are wolves in sheep's clothing.
March 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Malilong: Motives of those agitating People Power
By Frank Malilong
The Other Side
SOMETHING I read in yesterday’s issue of the Philippine Star nearly made me fall off my seat.
It was about pardoned plunderer Erap Estrada claiming that he is not only ready but has the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo if and when. His basis? Former president Cory Aquino’s “admission” that Edsa 2 was a mistake. Aquino, if you will recall, shared the stage with Erap during the interfaith rally in Makati last week.
“Actually I have the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo because I was unconstitutionally removed,” the deposed President was quoted by the Star. “They said that it is a big mistake and in order to correct that mistake, they should return me to the presidency.”
Of course, Erap isn’t the only one who is ready to assume the presidency. Vice President Noli de Castro has earlier said that he “was not preparing but was prepared” to take over from Mrs. Arroyo.
De Castro’s right to succeed the presidency is at least constitutionally clear and unambiguous. But don’t tell that to constitutionalist Erap who, still according to the Star, said: “The sovereignty lies with the people and the authority resides in them.”
But neither Estrada’s nor de Castro’s idea fit in the post-Arroyo scenario painted by Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, who espouses the creation of a transitional junta that presumably includes a Bayan representative. The junta is supposed to have a lifetime of only six months after which general elections will be held but we all know that in Philippine politics there is no such thing as an absolute guarantee.
Perhaps, we should expand the search for truth to include the motives of those who are now agitating another People Power in order to force Arroyo out of Malacañang.
March 6, 2008 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...
Interfaith rally: The view from below
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Close this The view from above the interfaith rally on Ayala Avenue in Makati City last Friday was really impressive.
The view from below was quite different.
Because my office has long been on Ayala Avenue (except for the past year when I moved to Herrera Street), I have witnessed all, and took part in some, demonstrations since People Power I in 1986.
The interfaith rally last Friday looked interesting. I decided I would be right in the thick of it. I closed the office at 1 p.m. and sent the staff home. The insurance offices in the neighborhood also shut down at the same time.
I called up some of my neighbors in Bel-Air. None was interested in joining the interfaith rally.
After killing time at the Makati Sports Club, I stood at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Herrera Street at around 5 p.m. As in the past, I wormed my way around the loose fringes of the crowd, chatting with the demonstrators and the vendors.
As usual, the crowd on Ayala Avenue at Paseo de Roxas was almost impenetrable. It was where the students and the colorful flags were massed. I made out the red flags of the communists—Bayan Muna, Akbayan, Gabriela, Sanlakas, Migrante, Partido ng Manggagawa (have I missed anyone?). Ever since they boycotted People Power I and did not share in the glorious victory, the communists have not missed a rally, big or small.
At the fringes were the mercenaries—the so-called “hakot” [hauled-in] crowd. They were the unwashed in rubber sandals. They just sat or milled around, ignoring the speeches. Their warm bodies provided the numbers that looked so impressive in aerial photos.
The mercenaries were there for the money, at P200 per head plus food and transport. For a poor family of five, that was a whopping P1,000 for just showing up.
I would have wanted to escort Cory Aquino to chat with the mercenaries. If she did, she probably would have walked out in tears.
The jeepneys that brought the mercenaries from parts beyond Makati were parked on the side streets. Each jeepney was probably hired at P3,000 for the round trip.
I estimated the crowd at 20,000 maximum. At least 10,000 were there for the money, and only for the money. The total cost, including jeepney rental, amounted to P5 million minimum. Where did the money come from?
I noticed confetti on the sidewalk, but it was a fake. The high-rise buildings were empty. The employees had gone home earlier. The vendors said so. With thousands around, the vending business was slow. As usual, the mercenaries brought their own food and did not buy any of the goodies from the vendors. I bought a bag of “chicharon” snack.
The interfaith rally was a sham, or, at least, half a sham.
After an hour, I went to the main bar of the Makati Sports Club, to kill a bottle of excellent Cabernet Sauvignon offered by Romy R., my drinking and singing buddy. At 9 p.m., we went home. The crowd was gone. Ayala Avenue was back to normal.
When all is said and done, as long as the employees choose to go home, and the residents in the upscale villages prefer to watch the proceedings on high-definition TV, and, most important, if half of the crowd is hauled in for the money, a protest rally on Ayala Avenue, no matter how many faiths take part, no matter how many ex-presidents attend, will come to naught.
No one can fake a People Power Miracle. No one can manipulate Divine Providence. Not even with all the money in the world.
March 6, 2008 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...
Why humor a rumor?
FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Without a doubt, the dissemination of hearsay — and sadly, the public’s willing acceptance of it — has become part of the Filipino lifestyle since time immemorial. Analogous to an epidemic spreading at a geometric rate, rumor dispersion in our country takes place at any time of the day and in any conceivable venue: within the neighborhood, a classroom, the cafeteria, office cubicles, restrooms, barber shops, or simply where idle minds and blabbermouths gather and lounge.
While in some cases, gossip can be considered constructive (we’ve all heard the cliché “good or bad publicity is still publicity”), this is mostly true for the entertainment industry, which lives and breathes on intrigue. In the real world, the unavoidable outcome of gossip is a trail of ruin and upheaval. Many times in the workplace, for example, tittle-tattle sessions end up making or breaking previously unsullied reputations of either an employer or an employee.
Unfortunately, the very state of our political affairs is currently being shaped by this “so-and-so said this” culture. Hearsay is now taking the place of verifiable evidence and solid proof. This is the compelling point that San Beda Graduate School of Law Dean Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino makes, in a letter he wrote to the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
Fr. Aquino expressed how he found the reactions and aggressive attempts of Archbishop Oscar Cruz, a number of priests and nuns, and militant groups questionable and out of context. Their all-out and categorical support for Jun Lozada has been based solely on perception and personal inkling. Moreover, Aquino points out that Lozada is far from being an unassailable witness, simply because he cannot even justify all the “bombs” he has dropped by himself.
It is true that any lawyer would insist that hearsay cannot stand in the court of law as evidence. It is therefore quite disturbing to see hordes of people clamoring for the President’s resignation, without even pondering if it is logical to fight for a cause that lacks substance. NEDA Chairman Romulo Neri, who is reported to be more involved with the controversial transaction, has consistently denied outright that the President had a direct participation in the cancelled NBN deal. It has therefore become a case of several people telling different versions of the events.
Given this, whom should the public believe? The person who looks the most convincing? The one who cries the most, or has priests and nuns (and a conspicuous Bible) by his side? Perhaps credibility goes to the person wearing the most modest camisa chino, or the one with the meekest demeanor. These things may earn a victory in the court of public opinion, but are completely irrelevant in an actual court of law.
If we rely on these factors as our basis to judge right from wrong, we might as well abolish the justice system. Nowadays, it seems that if someone makes an accusation against you and manages to style himself as a modern-day martyr, then bam! Automatically you’re guilty.
Some people dislike our current President, but surely they can’t deny that the inalienable human rights guaranteed in our Constitution also apply to her. One of these fundamental rights is the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” — and proven in a proper court, mind you. It’s the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation, and given the right ingredients, relatively easy to incite the public to demonstrate in the streets. So, is this how our leaders will be chosen from now on? Frankly, I don’t know which I find more alarming: a presidential couple with an alleged penchant for kickbacks, or a society which determines truth on the basis of perception.
And speaking of the proper forum, the “ongoing-yet-going-nowhere” Senate hearings is the farthest thing from a truth-seeking exercise. Honestly, the level of cheese (the figurative one, not the Senator) in these proceedings has reached sublime levels. Whereas in “ZTE: Season 1”, it was only our Senators who engaged in all sorts of pretentious theatrics, “ZTE: Season 2” has now unveiled a newer, more melodramatic cast. Regardless of whether you take Jun Lozada’s testimony as the gospel truth or not, you have to admit that his method of delivery often borders on being over-the-top.
And by golly, the Senators! Whereas in Season 1, there was at least some semblance of discretion to uphold the “in aid of legislation” statute, Season 2 has done away with any such pretenses, and now openly flaunts its true purpose: hearings in aid of election. As a Filipino voter, your honors, I would like to say that this not what I voted you in office for. My precious ballot was meant for leaders who enact meaningful laws, not those who waste taxpayers’ money in chasing airtime about a cancelled deal.
Thank goodness the next session will no longer be televised. I know this because I heard the neighbor of my computer technician, who happens to be the sister of my second cousin from the States, tell someone in her yoga class that ANC lost the rights to air it. Fortunately, this reached the husband of my officemate, since he happened to be loading gas at the same station that time. And that’s how I know for sure.
March 6, 2008 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...
I thought they are still in search for the truth
INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
It seems that Tita Cory, former President Joseph “Erap” Estrada and their bevy of misguided nuns and priests and leftist protesters, including the power hungry (and just as greedy) opposition, have already convicted and condemned President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA) for the ZTE scandal and have conducted mass prayer rallies asking her to resign. But the Filipino people have in more ways than one also spoken to them by not coming in the millions to their outdoor prayer rallies to restart another EDSA. By now Tita Cory should have gotten the message from the ordinary Filipino… that they don’t want another EDSA… not anymore!
Perhaps the main reason why the Filipino people have rebuffed Tita Cory’s call comes from this text message that was being sent around: “If Tita Cory, Erap, d bishops, priests and politicians and their cohorts are still searching for the truth, which is the title of their mass actions… therefore they still have not yet found that truth? Hence, logic dictates that since they still do not yet know the truth in the ZTE scandal, why are they handing down their verdict and meting out the penalty even while the investigation is still ongoing? Is this the Christian way of resolving our problems?”
We know that Tita Cory refuses to support Charter changes because the 1987 Constitution is named after her, yet she cannot even find in her heart that her Constitution must be upheld. She is now working for another extra-legal regime change which is why the majority of the Filipino people are not with her on this issue… more so that the testimony of Engr. Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. came from a Senate investigation which is controlled by the opposition. Things might be different if that testimony was done in court!
Over the weekend, I went around Metro Cebu on my bike stopping where I could talk to some people to get their sentiments and feel the pulse of the Cebuanos as to the events happening in the streets of Manila and why Cebuanos are not doing their share of rallies (the Cebu rallies number less than a thousand from the usual militant left) just like during the final months of the conjugal Marcos dictatorship? Could it be because our famous protester Inday Nita Cortes Daluz has already died and can no longer march with us?
While most people here supported President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA), however they are dismayed that she has failed to deliver on her one major campaign promise of a shift to federalism. Many people here also believe that her administration is corrupt, but they know that it is the present system that allows for corruption to flourish. Put in Noli de Castro as President and he would have two years to consolidate and solidify his presidency and we’re back to square one! New dog, same collar!
As Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on ANC over the weekend, “Nothing has changed since the EDSA revolt!” Indeed the fight against corruption seems to be so Manila-centered. But in Cebu, we have two major corruption cases that were headlined in our local dailies years ago and given coverage in the national dailies, but those cases still haven’t even reached the courts.
The first case was the Girls Scout fund released by then Rep. Clavel Asas-Martinez of the fifth district where the money allegedly found its way into her personal bank account. This is public money found in a public official’s bank account. This is a simple open-and-shut case as the evidence can be found in a paper trail. Yet the Office of the Ombudsman still hasn’t acted on it in the last four years! Why? Thanks to a centralized system where cases need to be approved in Manila and the perception here is that even the Ombudsman has been bought!
The other very public case is the scam on the lampposts bought for the ASEAN Summit where the Ombudsman, due to public pressure, suspended Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza for six months. Today, just a year after that anomalous purchase, 90 percent of the Chinese-made lampposts are no longer working. But worse of all, the petty criminals who stole a few of these lampposts have been indicted, but the bigger crooks are still scot-free! If you ask me, the bigger scam is that just a year after these posts were bought, they have become useless decorations! This should give you an idea never to buy anything made in China. But there’s just no accountability… nothing!
If Cebuanos are cynical about the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee investigations it is because we know too well that not a single law was enacted that emanated from those supposedly “in aid of legislation” hearings. But they have produced senators out of nobodies; after all, senators are voted at large and today, not a single one of them represents the Visayas or at least the island of Cebu! We want real change ASAP but not regime change!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Many would really attack PGMA because they believe in all these news, and they feel her wrath. If she's really corrupted, then let the anti-PGMA/pro-Lozada make her fall into the 9th ring with Satan and Judas from her office.
Those who are skeptical about Mr. J-Lo are the anti-Lozadas and the pro-GMA. If he is truly lying, then let the pro-GMA ask questions at him so he may step down at the pedestal of fame and honor.
-Mr. Lozada lied to his wife,
Mrs. Arroyo lied to the people
-Mr. Lozada collected P200K from JDVII,
Mrs. Arroyo collected $41M from the ZTE contract
-Mr. Lozada said he never had close contact with JDVIII,
Mrs. Arroyo said she never invested in any of her projects
-Mr. Lozada said he tells the truth,
Mrs. Arroyo said she's a good economist but not an astute politician
I don't care whatever happens to this. I'm fine with PGMA's projects (but sill she cheated on us).
I don't care if Lozada testifies. Let him what he has to say (but the sound clips of him on the phone make me doubt about his honesty).
March 6, 2008 6:06 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
MGA BAYANI NG BAYAN!
JOSE RIZAL: "Mamamatay akong di man lang nasisilayan ang bukang-liwayway."
BENIGNO AQUINO: "The Filipino is worth dying for."
JUN LOZADA: "Hello, Joey? Putangina..."
March 6, 2008 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Ash said...
Geez, some people believe Lozada's words like gospel truth! Kaya wala ng pag-asa ang bayan natin. Basta against the government kahit di sure na katotohanan pinagpipilitan na tutoo! As if they have evidence to prove their claims. Maswerte kayo at si GMA ang presidente. Kahit anong mura niyo sa kanya di niya kayo pinapatulan. Kung nasa panahon kayo ni Marcos baka di kayo makapagsalita ng ganyan. Yun ang panahon na pinasara ang mga diyaryo against the government, pati radio stations, kinulong si Ninoy, Diokno, Joker Arroyo at iba pa. Yung me curfew for more than 10 years. At yung ke Erap di ba suspect siya sa pagpatay ke Dacer at yung sa Kuratong Baleleng? Sila ni Lacson! Isipin niyo ang kapakanan ng bayan bago kayo maniwala.
March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
Jun Lozadas Kabit said...
NATATAWA AKO SA MGA FORMER SENIOR OFFICIALS!!
I am sure this former government officials are also a bunch of corrupt people... maybe mayroong isa o dalawang hindi.. pero karamihan im sure ay corrupt...
Kung ginawa lang sana nyo yung mga trabaho nyo nang mabuti while nandun kayo sa pwesto... d na sana marami problema sa ating gobyerno ngayon...
HAHAY kala mo sinong santo't santa mga putaninang former executives na ito..
Pati mga madre parang di nakapag-aral... utak skwater....
March 6, 2008 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...
Wenceslao: People bashing
By Bong O. Wenceslao
Candid Thoughts
IT seems like the fashion of leaders in the recent wave of protest actions against the Arroyo administration is to bash those who refuse to join them in the streets. I say that there is both arrogance and a failure to understand the sentiment of the many to this act. This is the reason why despite the onslaught the Arroyo government has survived.
How often have we heard, for example, self-appointed “guardians” of civility in government (so-called civil society), supposed ideologues and unabashed trapos (political opposition) blame the “indifferent” segment of the population for their failure to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? That is one classic example of passing the buck.
It's as if only they are capable of assessing the national situation, evaluating the nature and character of the Arroyo administration, laying down strategies and tactics of struggle and, most importantly mapping out the future for this country. In their arrogance, they think that people who stay in the sidelines are either naïve or less principled.
These people are the main purveyors of the black versus white (no pun intended) standpoint. They reduce a complicated setup into simplistic and dangerous (because it borders on fanaticism) terms. They want people to believe that only the antis are the possessors of integrity and truth and everything that others, like Malacañang, does is bad.
Nothing is objective in a black-and-white mindset. Here's an example. A more realistic appraisal of the character of witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. is that he is a product of the corrupt setup that he has exposed through the national broadband network (NBN) deal. But look at what the anti-Arroyos are virtually making him: a superstar and saint.
A scene in last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City provides us with another view of this weakness. When former president Joseph Estrada joined former president Cory Aquino on the stage, the decent minority walked away, hurt by the irony of a convicted plunderer leading what was essentially an anti-corruption undertaking.
But what did a leader of a militant group, who should have known better, say? He wanted his comrades in struggle to forget Estrada's sins for the greater goal of toppling the Arroyo government. I was shocked. The message was that, to paraphrase Deng Xiaopeng, it does not matter whether a cat is black or white as long as it fights Arroyo.
The claim to righteousness is partly the cause of this people bashing. Those who think they are the sole possessors of integrity and truth view others with jaundiced eyes. They criticize, sometimes with so much vitriol, those who do not toe their line. They overlook the possibility that maybe the “indifferent” understands the situation better.
Maybe the “indifferent” has, like the child in the fable, seen that the “emperor” (leaders of the struggle) is naked: that he does not have a better alternative to offer once Arroyo is ousted. Maybe the “indifferent” has seen through the claim of purity of purpose of those leading the struggle; that in their midst are wolves in sheep's clothing.
March 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Malilong: Motives of those agitating People Power
By Frank Malilong
The Other Side
SOMETHING I read in yesterday’s issue of the Philippine Star nearly made me fall off my seat.
It was about pardoned plunderer Erap Estrada claiming that he is not only ready but has the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo if and when. His basis? Former president Cory Aquino’s “admission” that Edsa 2 was a mistake. Aquino, if you will recall, shared the stage with Erap during the interfaith rally in Makati last week.
“Actually I have the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo because I was unconstitutionally removed,” the deposed President was quoted by the Star. “They said that it is a big mistake and in order to correct that mistake, they should return me to the presidency.”
Of course, Erap isn’t the only one who is ready to assume the presidency. Vice President Noli de Castro has earlier said that he “was not preparing but was prepared” to take over from Mrs. Arroyo.
De Castro’s right to succeed the presidency is at least constitutionally clear and unambiguous. But don’t tell that to constitutionalist Erap who, still according to the Star, said: “The sovereignty lies with the people and the authority resides in them.”
But neither Estrada’s nor de Castro’s idea fit in the post-Arroyo scenario painted by Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, who espouses the creation of a transitional junta that presumably includes a Bayan representative. The junta is supposed to have a lifetime of only six months after which general elections will be held but we all know that in Philippine politics there is no such thing as an absolute guarantee.
Perhaps, we should expand the search for truth to include the motives of those who are now agitating another People Power in order to force Arroyo out of Malacañang.
March 6, 2008 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...
Interfaith rally: The view from below
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Close this The view from above the interfaith rally on Ayala Avenue in Makati City last Friday was really impressive.
The view from below was quite different.
Because my office has long been on Ayala Avenue (except for the past year when I moved to Herrera Street), I have witnessed all, and took part in some, demonstrations since People Power I in 1986.
The interfaith rally last Friday looked interesting. I decided I would be right in the thick of it. I closed the office at 1 p.m. and sent the staff home. The insurance offices in the neighborhood also shut down at the same time.
I called up some of my neighbors in Bel-Air. None was interested in joining the interfaith rally.
After killing time at the Makati Sports Club, I stood at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Herrera Street at around 5 p.m. As in the past, I wormed my way around the loose fringes of the crowd, chatting with the demonstrators and the vendors.
As usual, the crowd on Ayala Avenue at Paseo de Roxas was almost impenetrable. It was where the students and the colorful flags were massed. I made out the red flags of the communists—Bayan Muna, Akbayan, Gabriela, Sanlakas, Migrante, Partido ng Manggagawa (have I missed anyone?). Ever since they boycotted People Power I and did not share in the glorious victory, the communists have not missed a rally, big or small.
At the fringes were the mercenaries—the so-called “hakot” [hauled-in] crowd. They were the unwashed in rubber sandals. They just sat or milled around, ignoring the speeches. Their warm bodies provided the numbers that looked so impressive in aerial photos.
The mercenaries were there for the money, at P200 per head plus food and transport. For a poor family of five, that was a whopping P1,000 for just showing up.
I would have wanted to escort Cory Aquino to chat with the mercenaries. If she did, she probably would have walked out in tears.
The jeepneys that brought the mercenaries from parts beyond Makati were parked on the side streets. Each jeepney was probably hired at P3,000 for the round trip.
I estimated the crowd at 20,000 maximum. At least 10,000 were there for the money, and only for the money. The total cost, including jeepney rental, amounted to P5 million minimum. Where did the money come from?
I noticed confetti on the sidewalk, but it was a fake. The high-rise buildings were empty. The employees had gone home earlier. The vendors said so. With thousands around, the vending business was slow. As usual, the mercenaries brought their own food and did not buy any of the goodies from the vendors. I bought a bag of “chicharon” snack.
The interfaith rally was a sham, or, at least, half a sham.
After an hour, I went to the main bar of the Makati Sports Club, to kill a bottle of excellent Cabernet Sauvignon offered by Romy R., my drinking and singing buddy. At 9 p.m., we went home. The crowd was gone. Ayala Avenue was back to normal.
When all is said and done, as long as the employees choose to go home, and the residents in the upscale villages prefer to watch the proceedings on high-definition TV, and, most important, if half of the crowd is hauled in for the money, a protest rally on Ayala Avenue, no matter how many faiths take part, no matter how many ex-presidents attend, will come to naught.
No one can fake a People Power Miracle. No one can manipulate Divine Providence. Not even with all the money in the world.
March 6, 2008 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...
Why humor a rumor?
FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Without a doubt, the dissemination of hearsay — and sadly, the public’s willing acceptance of it — has become part of the Filipino lifestyle since time immemorial. Analogous to an epidemic spreading at a geometric rate, rumor dispersion in our country takes place at any time of the day and in any conceivable venue: within the neighborhood, a classroom, the cafeteria, office cubicles, restrooms, barber shops, or simply where idle minds and blabbermouths gather and lounge.
While in some cases, gossip can be considered constructive (we’ve all heard the cliché “good or bad publicity is still publicity”), this is mostly true for the entertainment industry, which lives and breathes on intrigue. In the real world, the unavoidable outcome of gossip is a trail of ruin and upheaval. Many times in the workplace, for example, tittle-tattle sessions end up making or breaking previously unsullied reputations of either an employer or an employee.
Unfortunately, the very state of our political affairs is currently being shaped by this “so-and-so said this” culture. Hearsay is now taking the place of verifiable evidence and solid proof. This is the compelling point that San Beda Graduate School of Law Dean Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino makes, in a letter he wrote to the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
Fr. Aquino expressed how he found the reactions and aggressive attempts of Archbishop Oscar Cruz, a number of priests and nuns, and militant groups questionable and out of context. Their all-out and categorical support for Jun Lozada has been based solely on perception and personal inkling. Moreover, Aquino points out that Lozada is far from being an unassailable witness, simply because he cannot even justify all the “bombs” he has dropped by himself.
It is true that any lawyer would insist that hearsay cannot stand in the court of law as evidence. It is therefore quite disturbing to see hordes of people clamoring for the President’s resignation, without even pondering if it is logical to fight for a cause that lacks substance. NEDA Chairman Romulo Neri, who is reported to be more involved with the controversial transaction, has consistently denied outright that the President had a direct participation in the cancelled NBN deal. It has therefore become a case of several people telling different versions of the events.
Given this, whom should the public believe? The person who looks the most convincing? The one who cries the most, or has priests and nuns (and a conspicuous Bible) by his side? Perhaps credibility goes to the person wearing the most modest camisa chino, or the one with the meekest demeanor. These things may earn a victory in the court of public opinion, but are completely irrelevant in an actual court of law.
If we rely on these factors as our basis to judge right from wrong, we might as well abolish the justice system. Nowadays, it seems that if someone makes an accusation against you and manages to style himself as a modern-day martyr, then bam! Automatically you’re guilty.
Some people dislike our current President, but surely they can’t deny that the inalienable human rights guaranteed in our Constitution also apply to her. One of these fundamental rights is the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” — and proven in a proper court, mind you. It’s the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation, and given the right ingredients, relatively easy to incite the public to demonstrate in the streets. So, is this how our leaders will be chosen from now on? Frankly, I don’t know which I find more alarming: a presidential couple with an alleged penchant for kickbacks, or a society which determines truth on the basis of perception.
And speaking of the proper forum, the “ongoing-yet-going-nowhere” Senate hearings is the farthest thing from a truth-seeking exercise. Honestly, the level of cheese (the figurative one, not the Senator) in these proceedings has reached sublime levels. Whereas in “ZTE: Season 1”, it was only our Senators who engaged in all sorts of pretentious theatrics, “ZTE: Season 2” has now unveiled a newer, more melodramatic cast. Regardless of whether you take Jun Lozada’s testimony as the gospel truth or not, you have to admit that his method of delivery often borders on being over-the-top.
And by golly, the Senators! Whereas in Season 1, there was at least some semblance of discretion to uphold the “in aid of legislation” statute, Season 2 has done away with any such pretenses, and now openly flaunts its true purpose: hearings in aid of election. As a Filipino voter, your honors, I would like to say that this not what I voted you in office for. My precious ballot was meant for leaders who enact meaningful laws, not those who waste taxpayers’ money in chasing airtime about a cancelled deal.
Thank goodness the next session will no longer be televised. I know this because I heard the neighbor of my computer technician, who happens to be the sister of my second cousin from the States, tell someone in her yoga class that ANC lost the rights to air it. Fortunately, this reached the husband of my officemate, since he happened to be loading gas at the same station that time. And that’s how I know for sure.
March 6, 2008 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...
I thought they are still in search for the truth
INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
It seems that Tita Cory, former President Joseph “Erap” Estrada and their bevy of misguided nuns and priests and leftist protesters, including the power hungry (and just as greedy) opposition, have already convicted and condemned President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA) for the ZTE scandal and have conducted mass prayer rallies asking her to resign. But the Filipino people have in more ways than one also spoken to them by not coming in the millions to their outdoor prayer rallies to restart another EDSA. By now Tita Cory should have gotten the message from the ordinary Filipino… that they don’t want another EDSA… not anymore!
Perhaps the main reason why the Filipino people have rebuffed Tita Cory’s call comes from this text message that was being sent around: “If Tita Cory, Erap, d bishops, priests and politicians and their cohorts are still searching for the truth, which is the title of their mass actions… therefore they still have not yet found that truth? Hence, logic dictates that since they still do not yet know the truth in the ZTE scandal, why are they handing down their verdict and meting out the penalty even while the investigation is still ongoing? Is this the Christian way of resolving our problems?”
We know that Tita Cory refuses to support Charter changes because the 1987 Constitution is named after her, yet she cannot even find in her heart that her Constitution must be upheld. She is now working for another extra-legal regime change which is why the majority of the Filipino people are not with her on this issue… more so that the testimony of Engr. Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. came from a Senate investigation which is controlled by the opposition. Things might be different if that testimony was done in court!
Over the weekend, I went around Metro Cebu on my bike stopping where I could talk to some people to get their sentiments and feel the pulse of the Cebuanos as to the events happening in the streets of Manila and why Cebuanos are not doing their share of rallies (the Cebu rallies number less than a thousand from the usual militant left) just like during the final months of the conjugal Marcos dictatorship? Could it be because our famous protester Inday Nita Cortes Daluz has already died and can no longer march with us?
While most people here supported President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA), however they are dismayed that she has failed to deliver on her one major campaign promise of a shift to federalism. Many people here also believe that her administration is corrupt, but they know that it is the present system that allows for corruption to flourish. Put in Noli de Castro as President and he would have two years to consolidate and solidify his presidency and we’re back to square one! New dog, same collar!
As Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on ANC over the weekend, “Nothing has changed since the EDSA revolt!” Indeed the fight against corruption seems to be so Manila-centered. But in Cebu, we have two major corruption cases that were headlined in our local dailies years ago and given coverage in the national dailies, but those cases still haven’t even reached the courts.
The first case was the Girls Scout fund released by then Rep. Clavel Asas-Martinez of the fifth district where the money allegedly found its way into her personal bank account. This is public money found in a public official’s bank account. This is a simple open-and-shut case as the evidence can be found in a paper trail. Yet the Office of the Ombudsman still hasn’t acted on it in the last four years! Why? Thanks to a centralized system where cases need to be approved in Manila and the perception here is that even the Ombudsman has been bought!
The other very public case is the scam on the lampposts bought for the ASEAN Summit where the Ombudsman, due to public pressure, suspended Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza for six months. Today, just a year after that anomalous purchase, 90 percent of the Chinese-made lampposts are no longer working. But worse of all, the petty criminals who stole a few of these lampposts have been indicted, but the bigger crooks are still scot-free! If you ask me, the bigger scam is that just a year after these posts were bought, they have become useless decorations! This should give you an idea never to buy anything made in China. But there’s just no accountability… nothing!
If Cebuanos are cynical about the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee investigations it is because we know too well that not a single law was enacted that emanated from those supposedly “in aid of legislation” hearings. But they have produced senators out of nobodies; after all, senators are voted at large and today, not a single one of them represents the Visayas or at least the island of Cebu! We want real change ASAP but not regime change!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Many would really attack PGMA because they believe in all these news, and they feel her wrath. If she's really corrupted, then let the anti-PGMA/pro-Lozada make her fall into the 9th ring with Satan and Judas from her office.
Those who are skeptical about Mr. J-Lo are the anti-Lozadas and the pro-GMA. If he is truly lying, then let the pro-GMA ask questions at him so he may step down at the pedestal of fame and honor.
-Mr. Lozada lied to his wife,
Mrs. Arroyo lied to the people
-Mr. Lozada collected P200K from JDVII,
Mrs. Arroyo collected $41M from the ZTE contract
-Mr. Lozada said he never had close contact with JDVIII,
Mrs. Arroyo said she never invested in any of her projects
-Mr. Lozada said he tells the truth,
Mrs. Arroyo said she's a good economist but not an astute politician
I don't care whatever happens to this. I'm fine with PGMA's projects (but sill she cheated on us).
I don't care if Lozada testifies. Let him what he has to say (but the sound clips of him on the phone make me doubt about his honesty).
March 6, 2008 6:06 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
MGA BAYANI NG BAYAN!
JOSE RIZAL: "Mamamatay akong di man lang nasisilayan ang bukang-liwayway."
BENIGNO AQUINO: "The Filipino is worth dying for."
JUN LOZADA: "Hello, Joey? Putangina..."
March 6, 2008 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Ash said...
Geez, some people believe Lozada's words like gospel truth! Kaya wala ng pag-asa ang bayan natin. Basta against the government kahit di sure na katotohanan pinagpipilitan na tutoo! As if they have evidence to prove their claims. Maswerte kayo at si GMA ang presidente. Kahit anong mura niyo sa kanya di niya kayo pinapatulan. Kung nasa panahon kayo ni Marcos baka di kayo makapagsalita ng ganyan. Yun ang panahon na pinasara ang mga diyaryo against the government, pati radio stations, kinulong si Ninoy, Diokno, Joker Arroyo at iba pa. Yung me curfew for more than 10 years. At yung ke Erap di ba suspect siya sa pagpatay ke Dacer at yung sa Kuratong Baleleng? Sila ni Lacson! Isipin niyo ang kapakanan ng bayan bago kayo maniwala.
March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
Jun Lozadas Kabit said...
NATATAWA AKO SA MGA FORMER SENIOR OFFICIALS!!
I am sure this former government officials are also a bunch of corrupt people... maybe mayroong isa o dalawang hindi.. pero karamihan im sure ay corrupt...
Kung ginawa lang sana nyo yung mga trabaho nyo nang mabuti while nandun kayo sa pwesto... d na sana marami problema sa ating gobyerno ngayon...
HAHAY kala mo sinong santo't santa mga putaninang former executives na ito..
Pati mga madre parang di nakapag-aral... utak skwater....
March 6, 2008 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...
Wenceslao: People bashing
By Bong O. Wenceslao
Candid Thoughts
IT seems like the fashion of leaders in the recent wave of protest actions against the Arroyo administration is to bash those who refuse to join them in the streets. I say that there is both arrogance and a failure to understand the sentiment of the many to this act. This is the reason why despite the onslaught the Arroyo government has survived.
How often have we heard, for example, self-appointed “guardians” of civility in government (so-called civil society), supposed ideologues and unabashed trapos (political opposition) blame the “indifferent” segment of the population for their failure to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo? That is one classic example of passing the buck.
It's as if only they are capable of assessing the national situation, evaluating the nature and character of the Arroyo administration, laying down strategies and tactics of struggle and, most importantly mapping out the future for this country. In their arrogance, they think that people who stay in the sidelines are either naïve or less principled.
These people are the main purveyors of the black versus white (no pun intended) standpoint. They reduce a complicated setup into simplistic and dangerous (because it borders on fanaticism) terms. They want people to believe that only the antis are the possessors of integrity and truth and everything that others, like Malacañang, does is bad.
Nothing is objective in a black-and-white mindset. Here's an example. A more realistic appraisal of the character of witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. is that he is a product of the corrupt setup that he has exposed through the national broadband network (NBN) deal. But look at what the anti-Arroyos are virtually making him: a superstar and saint.
A scene in last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City provides us with another view of this weakness. When former president Joseph Estrada joined former president Cory Aquino on the stage, the decent minority walked away, hurt by the irony of a convicted plunderer leading what was essentially an anti-corruption undertaking.
But what did a leader of a militant group, who should have known better, say? He wanted his comrades in struggle to forget Estrada's sins for the greater goal of toppling the Arroyo government. I was shocked. The message was that, to paraphrase Deng Xiaopeng, it does not matter whether a cat is black or white as long as it fights Arroyo.
The claim to righteousness is partly the cause of this people bashing. Those who think they are the sole possessors of integrity and truth view others with jaundiced eyes. They criticize, sometimes with so much vitriol, those who do not toe their line. They overlook the possibility that maybe the “indifferent” understands the situation better.
Maybe the “indifferent” has, like the child in the fable, seen that the “emperor” (leaders of the struggle) is naked: that he does not have a better alternative to offer once Arroyo is ousted. Maybe the “indifferent” has seen through the claim of purity of purpose of those leading the struggle; that in their midst are wolves in sheep's clothing.
March 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Malilong: Motives of those agitating People Power
By Frank Malilong
The Other Side
SOMETHING I read in yesterday’s issue of the Philippine Star nearly made me fall off my seat.
It was about pardoned plunderer Erap Estrada claiming that he is not only ready but has the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo if and when. His basis? Former president Cory Aquino’s “admission” that Edsa 2 was a mistake. Aquino, if you will recall, shared the stage with Erap during the interfaith rally in Makati last week.
“Actually I have the constitutional right to replace President Arroyo because I was unconstitutionally removed,” the deposed President was quoted by the Star. “They said that it is a big mistake and in order to correct that mistake, they should return me to the presidency.”
Of course, Erap isn’t the only one who is ready to assume the presidency. Vice President Noli de Castro has earlier said that he “was not preparing but was prepared” to take over from Mrs. Arroyo.
De Castro’s right to succeed the presidency is at least constitutionally clear and unambiguous. But don’t tell that to constitutionalist Erap who, still according to the Star, said: “The sovereignty lies with the people and the authority resides in them.”
But neither Estrada’s nor de Castro’s idea fit in the post-Arroyo scenario painted by Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, who espouses the creation of a transitional junta that presumably includes a Bayan representative. The junta is supposed to have a lifetime of only six months after which general elections will be held but we all know that in Philippine politics there is no such thing as an absolute guarantee.
Perhaps, we should expand the search for truth to include the motives of those who are now agitating another People Power in order to force Arroyo out of Malacañang.
March 6, 2008 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...
Interfaith rally: The view from below
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Close this The view from above the interfaith rally on Ayala Avenue in Makati City last Friday was really impressive.
The view from below was quite different.
Because my office has long been on Ayala Avenue (except for the past year when I moved to Herrera Street), I have witnessed all, and took part in some, demonstrations since People Power I in 1986.
The interfaith rally last Friday looked interesting. I decided I would be right in the thick of it. I closed the office at 1 p.m. and sent the staff home. The insurance offices in the neighborhood also shut down at the same time.
I called up some of my neighbors in Bel-Air. None was interested in joining the interfaith rally.
After killing time at the Makati Sports Club, I stood at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Herrera Street at around 5 p.m. As in the past, I wormed my way around the loose fringes of the crowd, chatting with the demonstrators and the vendors.
As usual, the crowd on Ayala Avenue at Paseo de Roxas was almost impenetrable. It was where the students and the colorful flags were massed. I made out the red flags of the communists—Bayan Muna, Akbayan, Gabriela, Sanlakas, Migrante, Partido ng Manggagawa (have I missed anyone?). Ever since they boycotted People Power I and did not share in the glorious victory, the communists have not missed a rally, big or small.
At the fringes were the mercenaries—the so-called “hakot” [hauled-in] crowd. They were the unwashed in rubber sandals. They just sat or milled around, ignoring the speeches. Their warm bodies provided the numbers that looked so impressive in aerial photos.
The mercenaries were there for the money, at P200 per head plus food and transport. For a poor family of five, that was a whopping P1,000 for just showing up.
I would have wanted to escort Cory Aquino to chat with the mercenaries. If she did, she probably would have walked out in tears.
The jeepneys that brought the mercenaries from parts beyond Makati were parked on the side streets. Each jeepney was probably hired at P3,000 for the round trip.
I estimated the crowd at 20,000 maximum. At least 10,000 were there for the money, and only for the money. The total cost, including jeepney rental, amounted to P5 million minimum. Where did the money come from?
I noticed confetti on the sidewalk, but it was a fake. The high-rise buildings were empty. The employees had gone home earlier. The vendors said so. With thousands around, the vending business was slow. As usual, the mercenaries brought their own food and did not buy any of the goodies from the vendors. I bought a bag of “chicharon” snack.
The interfaith rally was a sham, or, at least, half a sham.
After an hour, I went to the main bar of the Makati Sports Club, to kill a bottle of excellent Cabernet Sauvignon offered by Romy R., my drinking and singing buddy. At 9 p.m., we went home. The crowd was gone. Ayala Avenue was back to normal.
When all is said and done, as long as the employees choose to go home, and the residents in the upscale villages prefer to watch the proceedings on high-definition TV, and, most important, if half of the crowd is hauled in for the money, a protest rally on Ayala Avenue, no matter how many faiths take part, no matter how many ex-presidents attend, will come to naught.
No one can fake a People Power Miracle. No one can manipulate Divine Providence. Not even with all the money in the world.
March 6, 2008 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...
Why humor a rumor?
FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas
Tuesday, March 4, 2008
Without a doubt, the dissemination of hearsay — and sadly, the public’s willing acceptance of it — has become part of the Filipino lifestyle since time immemorial. Analogous to an epidemic spreading at a geometric rate, rumor dispersion in our country takes place at any time of the day and in any conceivable venue: within the neighborhood, a classroom, the cafeteria, office cubicles, restrooms, barber shops, or simply where idle minds and blabbermouths gather and lounge.
While in some cases, gossip can be considered constructive (we’ve all heard the cliché “good or bad publicity is still publicity”), this is mostly true for the entertainment industry, which lives and breathes on intrigue. In the real world, the unavoidable outcome of gossip is a trail of ruin and upheaval. Many times in the workplace, for example, tittle-tattle sessions end up making or breaking previously unsullied reputations of either an employer or an employee.
Unfortunately, the very state of our political affairs is currently being shaped by this “so-and-so said this” culture. Hearsay is now taking the place of verifiable evidence and solid proof. This is the compelling point that San Beda Graduate School of Law Dean Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino makes, in a letter he wrote to the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
Fr. Aquino expressed how he found the reactions and aggressive attempts of Archbishop Oscar Cruz, a number of priests and nuns, and militant groups questionable and out of context. Their all-out and categorical support for Jun Lozada has been based solely on perception and personal inkling. Moreover, Aquino points out that Lozada is far from being an unassailable witness, simply because he cannot even justify all the “bombs” he has dropped by himself.
It is true that any lawyer would insist that hearsay cannot stand in the court of law as evidence. It is therefore quite disturbing to see hordes of people clamoring for the President’s resignation, without even pondering if it is logical to fight for a cause that lacks substance. NEDA Chairman Romulo Neri, who is reported to be more involved with the controversial transaction, has consistently denied outright that the President had a direct participation in the cancelled NBN deal. It has therefore become a case of several people telling different versions of the events.
Given this, whom should the public believe? The person who looks the most convincing? The one who cries the most, or has priests and nuns (and a conspicuous Bible) by his side? Perhaps credibility goes to the person wearing the most modest camisa chino, or the one with the meekest demeanor. These things may earn a victory in the court of public opinion, but are completely irrelevant in an actual court of law.
If we rely on these factors as our basis to judge right from wrong, we might as well abolish the justice system. Nowadays, it seems that if someone makes an accusation against you and manages to style himself as a modern-day martyr, then bam! Automatically you’re guilty.
Some people dislike our current President, but surely they can’t deny that the inalienable human rights guaranteed in our Constitution also apply to her. One of these fundamental rights is the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” — and proven in a proper court, mind you. It’s the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation, and given the right ingredients, relatively easy to incite the public to demonstrate in the streets. So, is this how our leaders will be chosen from now on? Frankly, I don’t know which I find more alarming: a presidential couple with an alleged penchant for kickbacks, or a society which determines truth on the basis of perception.
And speaking of the proper forum, the “ongoing-yet-going-nowhere” Senate hearings is the farthest thing from a truth-seeking exercise. Honestly, the level of cheese (the figurative one, not the Senator) in these proceedings has reached sublime levels. Whereas in “ZTE: Season 1”, it was only our Senators who engaged in all sorts of pretentious theatrics, “ZTE: Season 2” has now unveiled a newer, more melodramatic cast. Regardless of whether you take Jun Lozada’s testimony as the gospel truth or not, you have to admit that his method of delivery often borders on being over-the-top.
And by golly, the Senators! Whereas in Season 1, there was at least some semblance of discretion to uphold the “in aid of legislation” statute, Season 2 has done away with any such pretenses, and now openly flaunts its true purpose: hearings in aid of election. As a Filipino voter, your honors, I would like to say that this not what I voted you in office for. My precious ballot was meant for leaders who enact meaningful laws, not those who waste taxpayers’ money in chasing airtime about a cancelled deal.
Thank goodness the next session will no longer be televised. I know this because I heard the neighbor of my computer technician, who happens to be the sister of my second cousin from the States, tell someone in her yoga class that ANC lost the rights to air it. Fortunately, this reached the husband of my officemate, since he happened to be loading gas at the same station that time. And that’s how I know for sure.
March 6, 2008 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...
I thought they are still in search for the truth
INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
It seems that Tita Cory, former President Joseph “Erap” Estrada and their bevy of misguided nuns and priests and leftist protesters, including the power hungry (and just as greedy) opposition, have already convicted and condemned President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA) for the ZTE scandal and have conducted mass prayer rallies asking her to resign. But the Filipino people have in more ways than one also spoken to them by not coming in the millions to their outdoor prayer rallies to restart another EDSA. By now Tita Cory should have gotten the message from the ordinary Filipino… that they don’t want another EDSA… not anymore!
Perhaps the main reason why the Filipino people have rebuffed Tita Cory’s call comes from this text message that was being sent around: “If Tita Cory, Erap, d bishops, priests and politicians and their cohorts are still searching for the truth, which is the title of their mass actions… therefore they still have not yet found that truth? Hence, logic dictates that since they still do not yet know the truth in the ZTE scandal, why are they handing down their verdict and meting out the penalty even while the investigation is still ongoing? Is this the Christian way of resolving our problems?”
We know that Tita Cory refuses to support Charter changes because the 1987 Constitution is named after her, yet she cannot even find in her heart that her Constitution must be upheld. She is now working for another extra-legal regime change which is why the majority of the Filipino people are not with her on this issue… more so that the testimony of Engr. Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. came from a Senate investigation which is controlled by the opposition. Things might be different if that testimony was done in court!
Over the weekend, I went around Metro Cebu on my bike stopping where I could talk to some people to get their sentiments and feel the pulse of the Cebuanos as to the events happening in the streets of Manila and why Cebuanos are not doing their share of rallies (the Cebu rallies number less than a thousand from the usual militant left) just like during the final months of the conjugal Marcos dictatorship? Could it be because our famous protester Inday Nita Cortes Daluz has already died and can no longer march with us?
While most people here supported President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (GMA), however they are dismayed that she has failed to deliver on her one major campaign promise of a shift to federalism. Many people here also believe that her administration is corrupt, but they know that it is the present system that allows for corruption to flourish. Put in Noli de Castro as President and he would have two years to consolidate and solidify his presidency and we’re back to square one! New dog, same collar!
As Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. said on ANC over the weekend, “Nothing has changed since the EDSA revolt!” Indeed the fight against corruption seems to be so Manila-centered. But in Cebu, we have two major corruption cases that were headlined in our local dailies years ago and given coverage in the national dailies, but those cases still haven’t even reached the courts.
The first case was the Girls Scout fund released by then Rep. Clavel Asas-Martinez of the fifth district where the money allegedly found its way into her personal bank account. This is public money found in a public official’s bank account. This is a simple open-and-shut case as the evidence can be found in a paper trail. Yet the Office of the Ombudsman still hasn’t acted on it in the last four years! Why? Thanks to a centralized system where cases need to be approved in Manila and the perception here is that even the Ombudsman has been bought!
The other very public case is the scam on the lampposts bought for the ASEAN Summit where the Ombudsman, due to public pressure, suspended Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza for six months. Today, just a year after that anomalous purchase, 90 percent of the Chinese-made lampposts are no longer working. But worse of all, the petty criminals who stole a few of these lampposts have been indicted, but the bigger crooks are still scot-free! If you ask me, the bigger scam is that just a year after these posts were bought, they have become useless decorations! This should give you an idea never to buy anything made in China. But there’s just no accountability… nothing!
If Cebuanos are cynical about the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee investigations it is because we know too well that not a single law was enacted that emanated from those supposedly “in aid of legislation” hearings. But they have produced senators out of nobodies; after all, senators are voted at large and today, not a single one of them represents the Visayas or at least the island of Cebu! We want real change ASAP but not regime change!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
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PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
TO THE BLOG OWNER:
PLEASE DELETE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE ANTI-PGMA...WE DON'T READ THEM ANYWAY...THEY'RE ALL NONSENSE AND NOT RELATED TO THE TAPES YOU'VE PRESENTED. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOZADA AND DE VENECIA..THE TWO DELUSIONAL PEOPLE WHOM THE CRAZIER PEOPLE CALL HEROES...MY FOOT!!!
From BAGUSLAH
I work here in Makati and a professional. Enough of this crap Jun Lozada....don't fool the students. You don't even give a single document to show and prove your allegations. Liar and corrupt, get out of my sight.
these former government officials should not make any statements like that,
after all, they all came from equally, if not more corrupt administrations too...
the moment they volunteer themselves to prison, then they can make pronouncements...
that's right mr. Blog-owner, these pro-Lozada people dont mind bashing anybody. You can find it on both sides but it's rampant on the militants side, after all hindi mawawala yung HATE stuffs. If you dont join them, they call you names and yet they speak as if they always know the right thing. rude people. They must really like what their leaders teach them. Anyway the leaders of their movements, including some church people are doing a great job because everywhere I go I hear people bashing anybody as long as they feel like doing it. Even children do this too, as we have seen on TV they can just call someone magnanakaw or sinungaling as coached by their so called EDUCATORS. They claim to be modern heroes and concerned citizens yet they do not find it in their hearts to even listen to other people's point of view. If that is the only thing they will do, it is better we avoid crossroads because we only end up fighting instead of helping each other understand the situation. I just hope some of them can prove me wrong. Or worst, they can just make my case stronger.
That P15M investment fund w/ a life insurance company was already refunded but it went to Mr. Lozada's pocket. There was no record it was returned to the account of PhilForest Land Bank account. In other words, the money was laundered and it went directly to him when he discontinued his coverage w/ Insular Life.
Hmmmmm...... talagang magaling mangurakot ang probinsiyanong Intsik na ito.
@spratlys covered-up too. You said you think, In part, you claim your somewhat better. But we cant ignore the BADMOUTH.
If people here, respond with similar kind of words (i.e., foul language) I dont blame them because they probably had enough of these bashing they got, starting from movement leaders like Cory, down to the their followers. Tao lang din yang mga hinihiya nyo, so what do you expect from them? If indeed you renounce the DARK SIDE like what your hero said, then start by simple ways like respect. If you believe in what you profess so you can start showing your concern to your fellow Filipino by not humiliating them just because they dont join your crusade.
HopelessPinoys : and now..GLORIA the GARAPAL OF ALL GARAPALS!!! Shes making sure that from her apo down to her future apo and the apo of her apo will be wealthy as a PIG.
HopelessPinoys : ERAP the BOBO president. SANJUAN LANDGRABBER!
HopelessPinoys : RAMOS the BROWN-OUT KING
HopelessPinoys : CORY the FARMER MURDERER. (MENDIOLA MASSACRE & recently the HACIENDA LUISITA INCIDENT)
HopelessPinoys : Marcos..the PANDORA's BOX OPENER.
HopelessPinoys : People doesnt seem to see what this corrupt people are doing.This corrupt heads of state are making a fool out of all the people.
HopelessPinoys : DECADES..The country's been fighting for MARCOS WEALTH, the MERALCO SHARE, the COJUANGCO money etc..then all of a sudden with just a blink of stupid fool's eyes its all gone by just because mere "technicalities"..w/c this govt claims. Thats a lot of awful money!! No Juan delaCruz should be starving with that money.
HopelessPinoys : We dont respect the law.We convict the corrupt just to showoff.Then for a couple of months..an executive clemency comes...haha (Fools are we?!)
HopelessPinoys : the foundation of this country is absurd.We teach our children to glorify the corrupt.We build monuments and statues of pipol who should be hang for the crimes they commit to the people.
HopelessPinoys : from the president down to the LGUs, they "camouflage" their profitering of the govt funds by doing pathetic projects w/c we pitiful pinoys "buy"
HopelessPinoys : this country is hopeless
HopelessPinoys : this country is infested with selfish political people!
TRUTH B GUS2 NU??!!
C ERAP PO ANG DAMI N LUPA SA SAN JUAN!!!
EWAN LNG NTIN SAN GALING?
ERAP THE LANDGRABBER IS ON THE LOOSE!!
Its useless to change those people who have anti-PGMA sentiments katulad ni tirador. Di natin alam kung anong na-experience niya under PGMA, pero kung ano man yun parang very energized talaga sya sa ginagawa nya dito.
Ang kalalabasan lang nyan eh mas magiging dedicated iyan si Tirador sa gawain nya... buti na lang na pabayaan sya. He's loving what he is doing anyway...
pero with regards with JL, hay naku... With his actions now, parang I'm starting to have doubts about him especially yung nalaman ko na meron syang kabit?!
JL naman, don't say one thing and be contradictory in your life.
Kasama ako sa inter-faith rally, nag-ikot ikot. Yung may bayad yung ralliyista, natural yun kahit naman nuon pang EDSA2 tsaka kahit pro-Arroyo meron non. siyempre kelangan naman kumain lalo na yung mga nagrarally na maralita lang naman na pag hindi nakapagtrabaho sa isang araw walang mapagkukunan ng panggastos. Hindi naman talaga bayad yun, suporta lang. Maraming pumunta kahit mga estudyanteng bata-bata pa. Medyo maganda ang pakiramdam ko. kaso biglang naglaho ang lahat ng inaakala ko na ipinaglalaban ko nung makita ko na umakyat at lalo na nung marinig ko na magsalita si erap na para bang pinawawalang bisa niya yung mga ipinaglaban namin nung panahon niya. Ang sakin lang naman dapat masukol yung mga nagpapahirap sa bayan ngayon, maayos siguro yung intensiyon ng mga taong katulad ko lang sa rally. Pero wala din sigurong kwenta kung tinutulungan ko ngayon makapwesto yung papalit na magnanakaw. Sayang... Kung sa totoo lang, napakaraming katulad ko dun, nalito.. may paninindigan, lalaban, pero nalito. Nakakalito, at isa pa nakakainsulto na parang ginagawang laro yung seryoso naming pakikibaka. Sayang... Ayaw ko na... Isa pa pala, ok sakin si Lozada kasi siya yung makakapagningas nung laban. Ngayon, di ko na siya maatim... Mabuti pang kami kami na lang mga ordinaryong tao.. kung kasama rin lang naman tong mga taong ito, matutulog na lang ako baka pag-gising ko 2010 na. Aling Cory, kung tawag nyo sa iba nagtutulog-tulugan, ako gusto ko na lang matulog. Mas magkakaroon pa siguro ng totoong laban ang bayan kung hindi kayo masyadong nagpapa-papel.
@Sobrang-babait-Pinoys
HopelessPinoys : the foundation of this country is absurd.We teach our children to glorify the corrupt.We build monuments and statues of pipol who should be hang for the crimes they commit to the people.
- Sinabi mo pa.. I definitely agree.
Anonymous said...
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
March 6, 2008 8:25 PM
Anonymous said...
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
March 6, 2008 8:25 PM
hahaha!!! bravo! bravo!! ang galing ng pagkakafilter ah. biruin mo sobrang tiyaga inisa-isa kopyahin lahat ng pro-Estrada, pro-Lozada messages.(yung anti-administration ka, mpakikkinggan pa din naman ng iba dito pero yung member ka ng Lozada,Erap,Jamby, Lacson fan's club ewan ko lang) Ganyan talaga gawin nyo ayos yan, pag hindi nyo makuha yung loob nung mga tao guluhin nyo na lang. Mga tunay na Makabayan. Ay, siyempre dont forget the BASHING! turo yan ng mga idol. Nabasa ko nga kanina, sang-ayon ako eh kasi ganyan din nakikita ko sa ibang forums. Bakit nga ba ganito lagi, kelangan pa ba talaga ito? "mahal namin ang bayang ito, kayo pag hindi kayo sumang-ayon samin mga tuta kayo, mga bobo, tanga, kami matatalino. Mahal namin ang Pilipinas,pero Putang Ina Mo Pinoy na hindi naniniwala sa ginagawa ni Erap and Company mga bayaran kayo".
Kuha mo tsong, eh ako may kutob ako kung sino yan eh... peace na po tayo lo, naiintindihan naman po namin kayo kung bakit ganyan kayo.
Kasama ako sa inter-faith rally, nag-ikot ikot. Yung may bayad yung ralliyista, natural yun kahit naman nuon pang EDSA2 tsaka kahit pro-Arroyo meron non. siyempre kelangan naman kumain lalo na yung mga nagrarally na maralita lang naman na pag hindi nakapagtrabaho sa isang araw walang mapagkukunan ng panggastos. Hindi naman talaga bayad yun, suporta lang. Maraming pumunta kahit mga estudyanteng bata-bata pa. Medyo maganda ang pakiramdam ko. kaso biglang naglaho ang lahat ng inaakala ko na ipinaglalaban ko nung makita ko na umakyat at lalo na nung marinig ko na magsalita si erap na para bang pinawawalang bisa niya yung mga ipinaglaban namin nung panahon niya. Ang sakin lang naman dapat masukol yung mga nagpapahirap sa bayan ngayon, maayos siguro yung intensiyon ng mga taong katulad ko lang sa rally. Pero wala din sigurong kwenta kung tinutulungan ko ngayon makapwesto yung papalit na magnanakaw. Sayang... Kung sa totoo lang, napakaraming katulad ko dun, nalito.. may paninindigan, lalaban, pero nalito. Nakakalito, at isa pa nakakainsulto na parang ginagawang laro yung seryoso naming pakikibaka. Sayang... Ayaw ko na... Isa pa pala, ok sakin si Lozada kasi siya yung makakapagningas nung laban. Ngayon, di ko na siya maatim... Mabuti pang kami kami na lang mga ordinaryong tao.. kung kasama rin lang naman tong mga taong ito, matutulog na lang ako baka pag-gising ko 2010 na. Aling Cory, kung tawag nyo sa iba nagtutulog-tulugan, ako gusto ko na lang matulog. Mas magkakaroon pa siguro ng totoong laban ang bayan kung hindi kayo masyadong nagpapa-papel.
-okay to 'ah, parang ayaw mabasa kaya dinugtungan ng marami. tingnan nga natin kung ganun ulit.
nakakalungkot isipin na ang isang Lozada ay patuloy na magwawatak watak sa atin bilang isang bansa.
hindi ako komportable sa campus tour ni Lozada. he seems to enjoy the limelight. kumandidato lang siyang mayor sa probinsya niya, tiyak na ang panalo nya with all the media mileage na binibigay sa kanya.
narinig ko na yung mga sinabi nya, kailangan pa ba niyang ulit ulitin? marunong naman akong umintindi. ako na ang bahalang gumawa ng judgment kung paniniwalaan ko sya. pero yung paulit ulit niyang ginagawa yung nasabi na, mukhang iba na ang pakay nya. siguro naman nanonood ng tv yung mga estudyante at napanood na nila yung pinagsasabi nya. kailangan pa bang marinig in the flesh, in person? showbiz na showbiz na ang dating nya. i don't think it will help his cause in seeking the truth but it will surely help in feeding his ego trip simply because the media has found a new poster boy for the anti GMA campaign.
silent water runs deep. you had substance when you first came out. but at this point, you have become too shallow.
Iniibig ko ang Pilipinas!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
lozada sinungaling at walang konsyensya. maawa ka naman sa masang pilipino sa mga gnagawa m. gnugulo m bansa by telling lies just for personal xposure, may ambisyon ka palang tumakbo sa election. mga tao naman bobo din. naniwala kay lozada even without solid evidence. puro HEARSAY lang yan, kwentong barbero at kutsero.
gago yung mga nanghihikayat na mag rally ang mga estudyante dahil gulo lang yan. wag nyo na isali mga bata sa kalokohan nyo. mga rally for hire naman kayo. tska kahit sinong pres pinapaalis nyo. basta makakontra lang kayo. nagpapapansin lang kayo para mabayaran.
I think all the people should hear more about the issue before showing her/his opinion. I didnt mean that they are not entitled to their opinions. They are. But one must consider that it might raise a very serious issue if one might get the wrong information. Moral values were not taught to new generations if you would actually observe the whole community. Facts become gossips, Words become unreliable.
And for me, media should take their part. I mean, they should not be biased. They must get information not just from one party but from both sides. And let the people have their decision. Consider MORE ACTION AND LESS TALK.
Might even more better if all of us will just help ourselves and our country like volunteering to non-profit organizations rather be on the streets for at least you know you did something to your kababayan if you love your country (AND THAT IS REAL ACTION), and little by little we might meet our common goal.
indi ako anti o pro admi, ang sakin lang, doon sa lahat ng pro, isa lang tanong ko, napakinggan niyo na ba iyung hello garci? available sa you tube at may mga documentaries dun ang mga respected networks kung saan lahat nung mga nabanggit na bayan sa hello garci na bayan allegedly ay may mga discrepancies ang resulta ng NAMFREL at ng official canvass, try nio na lang hanapin at pakinggan, then at saka kayo mag react, better to know everything muna from the bottom bago tayo mag-react ... god bless
Tapos na ba yung one week ultimatum ng mga former cabinet secretaries kay Gloria? Sabi ko na nga ba puro dada. Papogi at paganda infront of the camera. Good sound bites lang sa television.
Itong mga members ng media natin, mahihilig sa tsismis. Mahilig sa senstionalism para mabili yung mga newspapers nila o di kaya umiscor sa rating. Bale wala sa kanila ang kanilang mga audience. Wala sa vocabulary nila ang "alleged" or "allegedly". Basta sa kanila may anomaly na kahit kasalukuyang iniimbestigahan. Paano makakabuo ng tamang opinion ang tao kung ang mga media natin nagpapalaganap ng kasinungalingan o mga balitang walang basehan.
Congratz PING-GAY your two project is BOX OFFICE "HELLO GARCI AND ZTE NBN DEAL! Ang galing ng directorial job mo hits sa lahat. Anu ba ang address ng new founded school "PING ACADEMY" I guess, all the witnesses are came from your "PING ACADEMY" Pwede makuha complete address kasi gusti rin namin maging witness sa SENATONG INQUIRY kasi alam namin na malaki ang bayad mo sa kanila. We agree with ROSE BUD all her words are truth... Hindi ka ba takot sa Diyos or you are born to be the living DEVIL... We hope na mas matindi ang GABA sayo at sa pamilya mo. Gud luck Direk PING_GAY!!!! Byeeeee....hahahaha
To : Hi JLOAD, we from PING ACADEMY are very proud of you. Classmate, we admire you so much for telling all the lies because you are a good follower of our DEVIL LEADER, Prof. PING-GAY. Sana ma-invite din kami sa susunod na hearing para naman meron din kami kita na katulad ng nakukuha mo na 200 thou in 1 week. Hindi ba dapat din kami makinabang kasi pera yan ng taong bayan. Please share your blessing... Classmate, meet ka namin sa Lasalle gate with other liar classmate na hunger for money.. we have the same blood and hope na kumita ng malaki... Hindi ka ba takot na pinakakain mo sa pamilya ay galing sa masama? See u in Lasalle... Bye Classmate... Share ka naman.
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
^^oi, naninira pa din, wala ng magawa kaya nag-anonymous na lang... hahaha!!! ginugulo na lang yung mga tao para hindi mabasa na ayaw ng marami sa idokl niyang si Jload. hahaha.. Kilala ka namin. senile ka na ba lo? second childhood mo na nga siguro no haha!!
Anonymous said...
Itong mga members ng media natin, mahihilig sa tsismis. Mahilig sa senstionalism para mabili yung mga newspapers nila o di kaya umiscor sa rating. Bale wala sa kanila ang kanilang mga audience. Wala sa vocabulary nila ang "alleged" or "allegedly". Basta sa kanila may anomaly na kahit kasalukuyang iniimbestigahan. Paano makakabuo ng tamang opinion ang tao kung ang mga media natin nagpapalaganap ng kasinungalingan o mga balitang walang basehan.
Anonymous said...
Congratz PING-GAY your two project is BOX OFFICE "HELLO GARCI AND ZTE NBN DEAL! Ang galing ng directorial job mo hits sa lahat. Anu ba ang address ng new founded school "PING ACADEMY" I guess, all the witnesses are came from your "PING ACADEMY" Pwede makuha complete address kasi gusti rin namin maging witness sa SENATONG INQUIRY kasi alam namin na malaki ang bayad mo sa kanila. We agree with ROSE BUD all her words are truth... Hindi ka ba takot sa Diyos or you are born to be the living DEVIL... We hope na mas matindi ang GABA sayo at sa pamilya mo. Gud luck Direk PING_GAY!!!! Byeeeee....hahahaha
Anonymous said...
To : Hi JLOAD, we from PING ACADEMY are very proud of you. Classmate, we admire you so much for telling all the lies because you are a good follower of our DEVIL LEADER, Prof. PING-GAY. Sana ma-invite din kami sa susunod na hearing para naman meron din kami kita na katulad ng nakukuha mo na 200 thou in 1 week. Hindi ba dapat din kami makinabang kasi pera yan ng taong bayan. Please share your blessing... Classmate, meet ka namin sa Lasalle gate with other liar classmate na hunger for money.. we have the same blood and hope na kumita ng malaki... Hindi ka ba takot na pinakakain mo sa pamilya ay galing sa masama? See u in Lasalle... Bye Classmate... Share ka naman.
(sa isang simbahan)
-premyadong speech-
Lozada: ako po ang ilaw ng katotohanan. Puro sinungaling sila, lahat sila demonyo, mga magnanakaw. Ako hindi, bait ako eh. kawawa na nga ako sobra di ba mga kabataan? di ba father? di ba sister? Bishop? Ako po may kredibilidad, malaki po ang tiwala sa akin ni Sen. Lacson at Jamby Madrigal. Yung mga senador na kumakalaban sa akin, may tsismis po ako sa inyo dyan. Mga taongbayan mag-people power na po tato. malaki na po ang isinakripisyo ko sa bayang ito. Maihahalintulad nyo po sa akin si Jose Rizal at si Luke Skywalker. Ako ang inyong tagapagligtas. Pero wala akong pangarap maging bayani, gusto ko lamang umikot sa lahat ng school para malaman nyo kung gaano sila kademonyo at ako hindi ko alam na maililigtas ko pala ang mga kaluluwa ninyo. kaya dapat nga po magpasalamat kayo sa akin, tulad ng iba na nakapagbigay na po ng donasyon. Siyanga po pala pinayaga na rin po ako nila Bishop Oscar Cruz, Deogracias Iniguez, Teodoro Bacani at Antonio Tobias na makapag- healing mass. Kaya ko na rin po yun. Sa totoo lang po, rpbinsiyanong intsik lang po ako. Mahirap lang po ako. Hindi po totoong nakakapagpaaral ako sa la salle kasi mahal dun. Basta lahat po ng sasabihin nila laban sa akin ito ito po ang itatak nyo sa mga utak nyo, kasinungalingan po yun. At ang lahat po ng sasabihin ko kahit sa anong bagay ay katotohanan po. Totoo po na nangabit ako pero napatawad na kami ng misis ko. Nagkasala na po ako aaminin ko. nangabit ako, pero sa tanang buhay ko hindi pa ho ako nakakapagsinungaling. paano po ba yun? marahil lahat kayong kasama ko rito aaminin nyo sa mga sarili nyo yan, dahil tayo ay tao lamang. marupok sa mga temptasyon. Sa akin po walang umubrang ganyan. Siyanga pala po may bago na naman po akong death threat at ngayon po umaabot na sa isang bilyon ang patong sa noo ko. Kung bakit ko po alam yan, aba siyempre ikinikuwento sa akin ng assassin, medyo palakuwento nga po kaya kahit tuloy yung detalye ng pagpapatay sa akin nalalaman ko.
nangilid ang luha at umiling-iling bumulalas ng iyak.... Huhuhu kawawa naman ako, ako na lang ang pag-asa ng bayang ito... huhuhu...
(nag-ring bigla yung Phone)
Lozada: hey, joey potang-ina naman nag-i-speech pa ko dito eh.
Joey: potang ina mamaya na yan golf muna tayo, potang ina mo.
Lozada: Potang ina neto nagugutom ako, kain muna ako lamb chops tsaka mga sosyal na pagkain.
Joey: Potang ina mo naman noh.
Lozada: Potang ina kausap ko pa kabataan eh, dami nga taga PUP dito eh sunod ng sunod sakin, bro dami magandang chicks ha. kay potang ina mo mag-isa ka muna.
Joey: Potang ina mo ulol!
Lozada: Potang ina mo rin panot pakshit ka!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Anonymous said...
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Mang tirador, mabuhay po kayo. tanggapin nyo po ang aming mga papuri. tutal magaling naman po pala kayo magpaliwanag at makipagdebate, kami po ay hindi namin kaya, kaya iiwan na lang po namin sa iyo ito.
Pakipaliwanag mo naman yung points nung pari na ipinost sa taas. baka po kaya nyo ring debatehin yang paring yan, kasi nga madami kayong naipapaliwanag na punto. Siguro naman po at least alam nyo yung mga pamantayan para maging objective sa pagbibigay ng paliwanag. Hindi nga naman siguro kayo basta sarcastic lang at nang-aasar, ako po naniniwala sa sincerity nyo at pagiging maalam. Sige po i-educate nyo kami. Dahil po kayo po ay magaling at magiting na tagapagtannggol namin dito, alam po namin na sasagutin nyo ito kung ito'y kumakalaban sa atin at igagalang namin kung ito'y hindi naman laban sa atin. ito po yun:
Why I will not support calls for resignation
By Fr. Ranhilio Callangan Aquino, Dean, Graduate School of Law, San Beda College (Mendiola)
I AM not an apologist for President Arroyo. I have received no favors from her. I believe that she is a competent president and I also believe in the Rule of Law, no matter that the law may, in several respects, be infirm. And by the precepts of the Rule of Law to which I adhere, pressuring the President into resigning by swaying public opinion away from her and alienating the allegiance of the military is anathema. My own reflections on the moral dimensions of the problems confirm me in the legal position I have so far taken.
1. I have followed with keen attention the proceedings in the Senate. Joey de Venecia’s testimony clearly implicates the First Gentleman. Under the current legal doctrine of individual responsibility, there is no justification to impute to the President whatever wrong-doings the First Gentleman may be guilty of. I am not yet conceding that he is guilty.
2. The testimony of Lozada, while rich in many details, contains not a single incriminatory statement against the President. There are innuendos that the deal was known to , if not brokered, by some Malacañang personalities, but innuendo is never evidence, and when we take so a serious move as urging the people to press for the resignation of the President, such a call must, by all moral precepts, rest on moral certitude!
3. Much of the testimony of Lozada in the Senate would fail the test of judicial admissibility. The Senate does not adhere to the Rules of Evidence. It is not required to because its task is not judicial.
4. The Senators are not the impartial investigators and judges that judicial proceedings call for. Most of the Senators are political adversaries of PGMA. The witness answers as he is led by the questions. In court, most o these questions are characterized as “leading,†and are disallowed in direct examinations because they lead the witness to the kind of answer the proponent of the question—in this case, the senators—wish to elicit from the witness.
5. Section 15 (1) of Republic Act 6770 vests in the Ombudsman the power to investigate “any public officer of employee, office or agency†when an act or omission complained of appears to be illegal or even merely improper. I do not read, nor is there reason to read, the exclusion of the President from the power of the Ombudsman to investigate. Section 22 is in fact express about its power to investigate impeachable officials. I would like to hear the Ombudsman tell us whether or not there is probable cause in the first place because this, the Senate of its own cannot determine, nor does it possess the power to do so!
6. What shocks me is the irresponsibility with which a lawyer and a Senator of the Republic should prejudice the Ombudsman and dissuade the public from lending credence to the Ombudsman. Why should he? The reason is not too difficult to fathom: Since this particular senator has always wanted the President ousted, he wants public attention focused on the Senate, majority of whose members are having a heyday with the investigations at which they get the chance to bash the President. Proceedings before the Ombudsman should be more sedate, more orderly, more rational.
7. The contention that the Ombudsman and the DOJ Secretary cannot conduct credible investigations because they are presidential appointees is specious! Were that so, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the associate justices of the High Court, the justices of all superior courts, judges of courts, members of the Constitutional Commissions—all would lack credibility because all are presidential appointees. Is it then our sad fate in this blighted Republic that only the Senators are to be trusted? All the clowning that has taken place in the Senate thus far convinces me otherwise: That it is one of the least credible institutions in this country.
8. Is it really the truth we seek? I have the sickening feeling that the President’s foes have already decided what the “truth†is—that she is guilty. If the Ombudsman were to find no probable cause against the President nor reason to indict the President in the Lower House (that is tasked with filing the articles of impeachment) after a thorough investigation, would the members of the opposition and the media be willing to accept this as “true� I have my serious doubts. But that is exactly the trouble: If they have decided before hand what “true†is, then all investigations are unavailing.
9. When one protests his earnestness in search of the truth and at the same time presses for the resignation of the President, one is guilty of a “performative contradiction.†If you search for the truth, you do not yet know whether or not she is guilty. But if you do not know this yet, what reason is there to ask her to resign?
10. Asking for the President’s resignation gives now the military the signal to shift allegiances: From following the chain of command to breaking it. I find pathetic and ludicrous Jose Ma. Sison’s call to the military to shift allegiances.
11. When did all these coup attempts disruptive of civil government start? They all started with the politicization of the military. While we lauded their role in the first EDSA People Power revolution, we also opened a Pandora’s Box—the ugly prospect of the military dictating upon civilian government and making the latter hostage to it. How shall we ever have a government that truly subjects military authority to civilian rule if we court military support for the ouster of civilian government?
11. The two EDSA People Power exercises we have gone through got us the results we wanted THEN—the ouster of Marcos, the ouster of Erap. But have these resulted in the strengthening of democratic institutions? They definitely have not. And when the institutions of democracy and justice are weakened by extra-systemic measures like people power, snap elections, pre-mature departures from office of duly constituted authorities we deter the maturing of our democracy.
12. It has been repeatedly argued that the President’s resignation is not unconstitutional. But forcing her to by inviting the military for example to disavow obedience to their Commander-in-Chief and the civilian population not to submit to authority is certainly unconstitutional
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March 6, 2008 12:17 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
Magulo ka, wala ka sa wisho. Papaano ko dedebatehin si Father e kakampi ko nga siya. Hanggang ngayon hilo ka pa. Hehehe.
Kilala ko yan si Father, pero atin-atin lang. Mang-oonse iyan. Tignan mo, dalawa ang number eleven niya, hihihi!
Esep-esep.
March 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...
Nahuli mo si father tirador. Dagdag-bawas pala siya!
March 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
SALI AKO SA GRUPO NYO!!!!!!!
KUNG TALAGANGA MGA PATRIOT KAYO AT KUNG TALAGANG DI KAYO MAKA-ADMINISTRATION AT DI KAYO MAKA-OPPOSITION!!!!
SALI AKO....ILANTAD NATIN LAHAT NG KATIWALIAN NG LAHAT NG POLITIKO!!!!
MGA PUTANGINANG POLITIKO YAN...SILA ANG DAHILAN NG PAGHIHIRAP NG BAYAN AT MGA PILIPINO!!!
PURO MAGNANAKAW!!!!!
March 6, 2008 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...
is jun lozada the type of "hero" that the school are looking up to. kawawa naman ang mga kabataan, wala yatang kakayahang mag-isip para sa kanilang sarili.
santa cory ano na ang masasabi mo?
mga bishops at lasalle brothers ano na?
mga madre?
eto ba talaga ang jun lozadang pinagpapatayan nyo?
March 6, 2008 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Tirador, ako yung asawa ni xyza. hindi pa lang ako nakakagawa ng account. kung totoo po na panahon pa ng Martial Law nasa UP ka na, hindi na po siguro tayo pareho ng edad. Hindi naman po ako makikialam sa inyo if you dont drag us into this. Sir I admire your courage kung isa kayo dun sa mga nakipaglaban sa demokrasya nung EDSA 1. Siguro po sa edad nyo ngayon, alam nyo na po ang tama. Natuto na po siguro kayo. So sana po ay maipakita nyo sa amin yun. Sir sana naman hindi lang kayo basta mang-insulto at maging sarcastic. Pwede naman naming pakinggan much more paniwalaan yung sinasabi nyo if only you treat us better. You can prove us wrong if you behave well more than people younger than you. Sana po maging modelo kayo ng kabataan, hindi yung nang-aaway pa kayo at nang-iinsulto ng kabataan. Kung mas may edad na kayo sir, How will we understand your point when instead of explaining you make an enemy of us? baka nga po kayo ay mas mature. Iginagalang namin yung pananaw nyo so dont make fun of us. Respect us as we respect you. Pareho naman tayong taga-UP so pakisama na lang po. Wag nyo na po kami idamay kung ano man yung galit nyo sa gobyerno o kung may kasagutan po kayo dito wag nyo na kami isali. Baka nga mamaya nyan eh magkakilala pa tayo. Hindi natin sure, so hinay hinay lang po. Baka nga po naging kaklase nyo pa yung mga parents ko sa UP eh. salamat po.
March 6, 2008 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...
@tirador
galing din akong UP. medyo matagal-tagal na rin. marami akong brod at kakilala sa ibat ibang organisasyon na frontliners dati sa movement nung martial law. pinag-uusapan namin lagi ang ganitong mga isyu, sa ibang online forum. pero ito ang consensus: iba na ang sitwasyon ngayon, at ito ay nangangailangan ng ibang aksyon.
dati may martial law, ngayon wala. ngayon, malaya kang makakapagpahayag, kahit saan. kung binastos mo si marcos noon, dedo ka. e ngayon, ilang beses na bang binastos ang pangulo?
isa rin ang natutunan ko sa UP: ibat-ibang klase ang bingi. at walang kwentang makipagtalo sa mga taong ayaw makinig. naririnig mo ba ako?
siyanga pala, alam ko kung ano ang structure ng grupo nyo. wag na tayong maglokohan. dati na akong ni-recruit dyan. ang idelohiya nyo ay dapat ibasura dahil walang katapusang gulo ang idinudulot nito. kahit sinong maupo, pinapaalis nyo. cory resign. ramos resign. erap resign. eh, kung si joma kaya ang maupo?
pero tirador, ilang taon ka ba talaga? atsaka ayusin mo muna yung problema mo sa bahay. dyan naman talaga ang ugat ng pagrerebelde mo.
March 6, 2008 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...
To Patriots for Truth:
Thanks for your recorded postings for our information. I never really trusted the testimonies of Joey de Venecia and Lozada. I just wish that those people in the rallies would hear the tapes.. Kawawa naman sila...they've been had by this duo. Specially the students, sayang ang mga tuition, panay ang rallies, they've been misled. Aquino is not a good role model --she's the one calling for people to uprise. Can't she be charged for sedition? She's been misleading the people to go against our president and other lawful authorities....she even accuses the silent majority of sleeping for not joining her! What has become of her- I think she's gone nuts. Somebody should check-out her mental health, it doesn't look good. She's even praising Lozada--she's really insane!!!
Anyway, thanks again for your good public service!!!
Mabuhay kayo-Patriots for Truth!!!
March 6, 2008 2:16 AM
Xyza said...
Tirador, I would emphasize yet again that you are talking to another Filipino. Does it make me less Filipino if I don't the share the same opinion as yours?
What is your point really, with all the sarcasm you're throwing in? Are you trying to get me on your side? Because if you are you're doing a poor job at it, all I see is hate and despair, not to mention irrationality and subjectivity.
What I see clearly is that you're trying to get me on the street and join you or else I'll be subjected to your ridicule. I will, by all means, if you give me enough reason to. ACCUSATIONS don't count, much less sarcasm. EVIDENCE in a proper court trial does.
Your main point then is to defy the constitution, defy the rule of law and let's all resort to mob rule.
Do you think the military will just watch while all this unfolds? Bakit kaya may kagaya nila Trillanes, who wants to have a military take over? Is it just really about GMA or is it about all of us Filipino civilians who lack the capacity to run a democratic government?
So ano - mob rule, martial law or rule of law?
March 6, 2008 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...
What has come to our country? People in Manila are being misled by the lies of President Arroyo's enemies. The devil is working overtime. Even the nuns led by Elsa Compuesto(who left a commment earlier) wants the President out---she doesn't even know the whole truth!!!Nobody knows!!!She even uses Mother Mary in her comment--Mother Mary will not judge people including the President--Mother Mary will not join to call for her ouster. She is just as God is just!!! These nuns are believing the lies---am so disappointed, it shows that they need to pray more and stay out of politics. They have no wisdom at all--all they do is "naki-kisali" without any proof if the accusations are true. So those "SAMIN" nuns pray for gifts of wisdom and discernment, because it is very clear you don't have them.
You're believing the accuser---who is the accuser according to the Word? S A T A N !!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...
TIRADOR SOUNDS LIKE DE VENECIA, LACSON, CAYETANO, MADRIGAL, ESCUDERO, ROXAS OR VILLAR OR EVEN LOZADA BECAUSE HE'S SO PILOSOPO AND SARCASTIC....HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT ANTI-GMA BUT HIS WORDS ARE. HOW COME HE KNOWS ALL THE CRIMES- HE MUST HAVE COMMITTED THEM ALL...HMMMM...
March 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...
hahaha!!! nakakatawa si tirador. Hindi pala kaya yung hamon sa kanya kaya nagpalusot na lang. "magkakampi tayo bakit away mo ko, away nga natin sila eh. hahaha!!! bara ng bara ng iba, kaya yan barado ka rin, ibinabalik tuloy sayo. Hindi kinaya yung hamon sa kanya tungkol sa pari kaya NAGTSISMIS na lang. Sige tol, tsismis ka lang ng tismis baka ma-discover ka ni boy abunda.. Ay, sosyal ang papa mo bagay na bagay sa showbiz ang daming chika.. hahaha!!! wala kang sinasanto ha, yan tuloy napapala mo. eh may edad ka na pala hindi mo naman mapakita na may pinagkatandaan ka. Si daddy, nagmumurang kamatis nakikipag-asaran sa mga bagets haha!! Yan eh kung hindi mo kami chinacharing sa edad mo. Baka naman hindi totoo yung mga chika mo samin na role player ka sa sa Edsa1 hahaha.. ilang taon na po kayo daddy? masama ugali namin eh kaya turuan nyo naman kami ng tama dahil marami na po kayong experiences na magtuturo sa inyo ng kagandahang asal.
March 6, 2008 3:18 AM
plato said...
Stupid Tirador. The majority of UP students and alumni could discern fact from fiction. We have our own minds. We are not easily influenced by a lying demagogue such as Jun Lozada. It is clear to us that Lozada is a liar who has been inventing his testimonies with the help of Lacson and Madrigal. These secret phone conversations, if you've ever listened, are clear proofs that his credibility is non-existent. He only wants money to feed his 10 kids from several women.
March 6, 2008 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...
He has a lot of stories to tell, no wonder he adores Lozada... poor tirador, another big joke...
March 6, 2008 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
What is evident is that the fiction of law is used to milk the masses. Gloria had the chance to implement the gov’t truer to the consensus of the filipino people but she has aggravated this palakasan, bribery, blackmail thru wiretapping and personal dosiers, kidnapping, etc.
I would prefer a totally open money system where everyone else sees what everyone has and that money can freely flow to the masses. Where every national is entitled to draw a subsistance amount from the financial system but the talented can increase their wealth up to a certain wealth. Big changes, but it can be done with small steps of honesty that should come from implementors of gov’t.
By the way, since you are into it. Why don't you publish also the conversations of Abalos, Mike A., Gloria, Neri, Atienza, Esperon, Razon etc.
(sa isang simbahan)
-premyadong speech-
Lozada: ako po ang ilaw ng katotohanan. Puro sinungaling sila, lahat sila demonyo, mga magnanakaw. Ako hindi, bait ako eh. kawawa na nga ako sobra di ba mga kabataan? di ba father? di ba sister? Bishop? Ako po may kredibilidad, malaki po ang tiwala sa akin ni Sen. Lacson at Jamby Madrigal. Yung mga senador na kumakalaban sa akin, may tsismis po ako sa inyo dyan. Mga taongbayan mag-people power na po tato. malaki na po ang isinakripisyo ko sa bayang ito. Maihahalintulad nyo po sa akin si Jose Rizal at si Luke Skywalker. Ako ang inyong tagapagligtas. Pero wala akong pangarap maging bayani, gusto ko lamang umikot sa lahat ng school para malaman nyo kung gaano sila kademonyo at ako hindi ko alam na maililigtas ko pala ang mga kaluluwa ninyo. kaya dapat nga po magpasalamat kayo sa akin, tulad ng iba na nakapagbigay na po ng donasyon. Siyanga po pala pinayaga na rin po ako nila Bishop Oscar Cruz, Deogracias Iniguez, Teodoro Bacani at Antonio Tobias na makapag- healing mass. Kaya ko na rin po yun. Sa totoo lang po, rpbinsiyanong intsik lang po ako. Mahirap lang po ako. Hindi po totoong nakakapagpaaral ako sa la salle kasi mahal dun. Basta lahat po ng sasabihin nila laban sa akin ito ito po ang itatak nyo sa mga utak nyo, kasinungalingan po yun. At ang lahat po ng sasabihin ko kahit sa anong bagay ay katotohanan po. Totoo po na nangabit ako pero napatawad na kami ng misis ko. Nagkasala na po ako aaminin ko. nangabit ako, pero sa tanang buhay ko hindi pa ho ako nakakapagsinungaling. paano po ba yun? marahil lahat kayong kasama ko rito aaminin nyo sa mga sarili nyo yan, dahil tayo ay tao lamang. marupok sa mga temptasyon. Sa akin po walang umubrang ganyan. Siyanga pala po may bago na naman po akong death threat at ngayon po umaabot na sa isang bilyon ang patong sa noo ko. Kung bakit ko po alam yan, aba siyempre ikinikuwento sa akin ng assassin, medyo palakuwento nga po kaya kahit tuloy yung detalye ng pagpapatay sa akin nalalaman ko.
nangilid ang luha at umiling-iling bumulalas ng iyak.... Huhuhu kawawa naman ako, ako na lang ang pag-asa ng bayang ito... huhuhu...
(nag-ring bigla yung Phone)
Lozada: hey, joey potang-ina naman nag-i-speech pa ko dito eh.
Joey: potang ina mamaya na yan golf muna tayo, potang ina mo.
Lozada: Potang ina neto nagugutom ako, kain muna ako lamb chops tsaka mga sosyal na pagkain.
Joey: Potang ina mo naman noh.
Lozada: Potang ina kausap ko pa kabataan eh, dami nga taga PUP dito eh sunod ng sunod sakin, bro dami magandang chicks ha. kay potang ina mo mag-isa ka muna.
Joey: Potang ina mo ulol!
Lozada: Potang ina mo rin panot pakshit ka!
Joey: Fuck-off!
(nag-feedback yung mic)
Bishop: Mr. Lozada, "moderate your voice.
Lozada: Nakita nyo po mga kababayan, meron na naman po akong bagong natanggap na death threat mula sa gobyernong arroyo.
Student: paano nyo po nalaman na gobyerno yun?
Lozada: Halata naman po, walang duda. Kasi po sinabi po nung kausap ko ngayon na may nakapagsabi sa kanya na kaibigan nung kapatid ko na narinig nya habang nagkukuwentuhan yung dalawang tao na tauhan ng gobyerno habang na nakarinig nung death threat laban sa akin at diyan po pumasok yung invlovement ni mike arroyo. alam na alam ko po ang detalye..
Students: Grabe! nakaka-shock talaga ang gobyerno. Klarong, klaro na may kinalaman sa assassination plot Mike arroyo.
Malamang si Mike Arroyo ang tunay na FLorentino Igtiben pero may nagppanggap lang para makapagsinungaling na lang sila.
Senatong Baleleng: Mr. Lozada, pano ba isasagaw ang planong pagpatay sa iyo?
Lozada: Alam ko pero, ayaw ko na munang magsalita. Ayoko naman ng ganito marami na tuloy nagpapa-autograph sakin, mabuti pa po yung assassin na lang ang tanungin nyo.
S. Baleleng: confeeermed na ba ito?
Lozada:aahh... ahhh.. siguro.. siguro.. siguro sigurado ako.
pro GMAers are just up coz they cant accept that they were wrong putting her up in the presidency.. :)
Wow! Congratulations Patriots for Truth! These conversations have already reached the Senate courtesy of Manong Johnny. It is remarkable how Jun Lozada and Joey de Bocal suddenly developed fits of amnesia when asked by the senator about the existance of such taped conversation.
Abangan ang susunod na kabanata!
Salamat sa iyo, Patriots for Truth! Kung hindi sa iyo, hindi namin malalaman ang mga tunay na pangyayari sa likod ng mga huwag na bayani na mga ito.
Go, Manong Johnny! Trash them!
It's remarkable why these biased senators were silent except for the putaksing lacson when Manong Johnny presented these conversations to their seemingly clueless idols. They seemed to be caught w/ the hands on the cookie jar. Bwahahaha!
ozada wasnt kidnapped at all…..if they were planning to liquidate him….they wont pick him up in the airport…they wont let him use his cellphone….to you mr. lozada…”you can fool most people most of the time but you cant fool all people, all the time.”....sabi nga s aisanga rticle sa inquirer..kung si burgos nga pumalag nung dinukot soya...ikaw pa kaya...mas airport ka pa....
this zte thing is a story of brokers gone mad and out for revenge and self preservation!!!
jun lozada and abalos are brokers for their respective clients…lozada for joey and abalos for zte
lozada….will not come out…if joey got the project….joey wont even say anything if he got the project
brokers who are camouflaging as “heroes”, “whistle blowers” and fooling most filipinos
the senate and the so-called “heroes” conniving the bring down the government
senators using the nbn-zte for their own media mileage…for their own political ambitions in 2010, villar, lacson, roxas…….if this investigation is in aid of legislation, then why havent they invited resource speakers who can give more inputs on how to minimize the corruption in the philippines….
how much is the senate spending for every investigation they are making
it is true that the “blue ribbon” has jurisdiction to investigate anomalies in government but their power is only recommendatory….
From: Kuya Ed -Bayan Ko USA
To: All our Kababayan sa Pilipinas
MESSAGE NO. 5
Good Morning po uli Bayan ko sa Pilipinas. I was reading all the comments at pinapanood ko sa TV ang karamihan ng mga News and comments na galing po sa mga kababayan natin na Pro and against sa kasalukuyang mga pangyayari sa ating Mahal na Bayang Pilipinas at sa mga ginagawa ni Mr. Lozada. Wala po akong comments sa mga opinion ng ating mga kababayan, Iyan po ay nagpapatunay na mayroon tayong democracy sa ating bayan na magsalita ng ating saloobin maging English man o sa sarili nating wika.
Ang ating pong pinanaglalaban ngayon ay ang kinabukasan ng ating Bansa at ang pagpapahirap sa taong Bayan ng kasalukayang mangdarambung na si Mrs, Arroyo et al at ang anyang Magnificent 7 sa Malacanang.
I cannot still believe why we are tolerating this kind of Corruption na nagcocontribute sa kahirapan ng mga Pilipino. Hindi naman natin masasabi na ang mga Pilipino ay below sa standard of Education at walang sarili pag-iisip
Since the time of Lapu-Lapu, the time of Rizal, Address Bonifacio, Gregorio Del Pilar, Quezon, Roxas, Laurel, and the Chief Justice of Supreme Court Jose Abad Santos during the Japanese Time and the Guerillas of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, we have shown to the World how we are talented and how Natonalistic we are na may pagmamahal sa ating Inang Bayan. Even now during our generations, we have the Magsaysay, the Recto, the Manahan, the Lacson, the Salonga, the Aquino, the Saguisag the Business Men like the Alaya, the Madrigal, the Lopez, the Youth, the young Students, the womens , ang mga Madre at Pari and other religious Leaders the non-corrupt Congresmen and Senators, the best Group are the mahihirap kung tawagin natin ay MASA.
Why Bayan ko, na tayo ay napapadaig sa iilang mga Groupo ng mga tao na ang ginagamit sa paggigisa sa atin ay ang sarili nating mantika. Ito po ay isang mailiit na Groupo na nangugurakut sa ating kaban ng Bayan at pagkatapus ang perang nakukurakut nila ay siyang ginagamit sa ating mga Kababayan ke Mayaman, Politician, Businessmen, lalo-lalo na sa ating mga mahihirap. Tayo po rin ang may mga salanan sa mga pangyayaring ito. Amga taong kurakut na ating pinabayaan ang siyang naghahasik ng kadiliman sa ating Bansan ngayon.
Kung atin pong gugunitain ang mga nagdaan during the Second World War (Japanese Time) nagkaroon po tayo ng masamang pamumuhay nangt pamahon ng Hapon. Nariyan ang mga MAKAPILI NA na dahilsa gridyness sabik sa Power ibininda na ang Pilipinas sa mga sakang na Hapon. Ang mga fake na Guerilla a pumapatay at nagsasamantala sa ating mga mahihirap na kababayan. Ang ibang mga pinununa Bayan na makahapon, at ng Liberation ay napasama na naman tayo, siguro sa kahirapan ng Buhay na dinanas natin sa mga Hapon. Lumaki at tumaas ang mga kremen nangpagnanakaw, pagpasuk sa bahay ng may bahay, ang kawalan ng dikrection n gating Pamalaan sa kinabukasan ng bayan tunkul sa kauulad ng mga Negusiong pangkabuhayan ng Bayan ang mga itinuro ng mga iabt-ibang dayuhan sa pagkita ng pera sa madaliang paraan. Ang mga madaliang akita ng pera at lagayan na nangyayari sa mga pinakamatatas na punong bayan na siyang ginasginan ng mga sumusunud na Henacion n gating mga kabataan nang 50’s, 60’s, 70’s 80’s, 90’s and the Year 2000 na nagging basihan ng kasalukuyang Generation n gating Bayan. Please allow me the show the Corruption and the things that we allow right after the Second World War.
During the Time of Quirino:
Q-What happen to the Japanese Reparation that we got from the Japanese after the War.
A-I know one large Corrution on this Reparation. The Japanese Government gave us the Cold Cash Money and Equipment for the improvement of our Governement and Country Development. Most the money were taken by our masasamang Official ng Bayan from the higher up to the Fake Guerella na kababayan natin. One of these was a Brothers Team in Manila, even a Justice in our Supreme Court who is close to the President. This two brothers were the one who arranged the Japanese reparation deal. They were able to get Money and Equipment for the improvement of the life of the Pilipinos. Instead of getting farm Equipemt for our magsasaka and they put up a Five Star Hotel in the Center of Roxas Blvd. Instead of getting Farm Equipment they were able to get materials and Equipment for this International Hotel, like Airconditioning, Ketchen Equipment and many others for a 1st Class Hotel. But the Hotel was not push through because the other brother of this Justice went around the World and have a happy life in Las Vegas. So insort the building was constructed in frame only and stay at the same location from 50’s up to the 60’s even the 80’s after another crook and tuta ng isa pang mandarambung na President ang nakabili na ang Money nanggaling nanaman sa Kaban ng Bayan na siyang nangurakut sa ating Sugar Industries noong 60’s na may bank sa California. You may ask why I know these things. I was there on the 60’s when I 25 years old starting to work on my dream to be a Millionaire and be successful, Mechanical Engineer. After being a Manager of a Large American Firm, I got already three Corporations, engage on Import-Export Business and Real State and Development of properties. I investigated this unfinished Hotel and met the owner and their Lawyer to sell the property to a Large Filipino Bank owner who happens to be my client in his Logging Business and that’s were I was able to know the history of this Hotel which is now Hol……..Inn and was own by another croney of the 60’s…. who was Ex-Mr. Ambassador to J……who manipulated our Sugar Industry during the 60’s. again you may ask why I know this because I was part of the Investigation Team who investigated this deal and the Bank plus the Coconut Industry Corruption during the 60’s in which a prominent figure and Politician was involve and luckly still with a Business Power in the Philippines. Mr. Business Man do you still remember the Coconut Oil Refinary in San Francisco at the Military Street which you used with the Big Lady to kurakut all the Dollars profit par sana sa kaban ng bayan and still is still there. Ohhh thanks to Mr. Diaz of the Good Government headed by our Best Ex-Senator Salonga for including me as a Team members on these investigation. That’s why to support the Candidacy of Mr. Salonga for Senators, that I believe will help our Country on the 70’s & 80’s I was the one who contributed the steakers at the back of the car “SALONGA FOR SENATOR”, OK NA PO IYON Mr. Salonga kasi isa kayo sa aking tinitangalang One of the Best Senators that we have. Kagaya po noong ako po’y President ng Corp Commander Association of the Manila ROTC panahon po ng magiting na General Ernesto Mata at General Arrelano noong 1964 ako po ang kaunaunahang Kabataan Leader na nagdadag ng Organization ng mga Kabataan against the Corruption in the Government na nakikita na po naming noong mga panahon na iyon and the 1st Politician that have supported ay si Senator Gerry Roxas to establish a Good and Clean Government. We were 24 Universities inside Manila and I remembered the Soliman of UP, the Diceo of UE, the Bellesa of FEU, the Bu of PLS, the Garcia of UST at marami pa pong Corp Commander members namin ng different Univerties at that time. Lahat po kami’y mga makabataang umaasa sa pagbabago ng ating Bayan during that time.
During the Time of Magsaysay:
Wala pong masyado kasi po namatay po ang ating Magiting na Pangulo agad sana po ay maguumpisa na sana ang ating Good Government pero ok lang po. Ang natatandaan ko lang po ay napasukan tayo ng mga International Mafia pero hindi po natuloy ang STONE HILL program pero ang nagtuloy po ng Project na ito ay nasa poder pa po at kasulukuyang naghahasik ng kaguluhan sa ating Bansan dahil sa Protection ng kanyang mga nakurakut noong panahon niya.
During the time of Garcia:
Maraming marami na pong Corruption sa Custome ay talamak na po sa Malacananag, sa Governement Offices, sa Airport sa Businesses, sa Banko ang pinamalaki po ay ang Rice Issue ng NARIC, ang National Power dealing……. At iba pa. Again the question WHY…..Bayan bakit natin natulerate ang alahat na ito…..
During the time of Macapagal:
Opppppssss………the Big Question sino kaya ang nagmana ng kabulukan ng Head of the Country during ths time…..Opppppss again…….sabi ko na nga bas a inyo…the POOR BOY is the worse Boy in town during that time……..Nalampansan niya ang Quirino Time, the Garcia’s Time at ngayon ay gumagawa siya ng kanyang time…..
Opppsss again Kumusta kaya noong Hisaa……………Time…iyong nakaw time pati ba naman iyong Pera ng Liberal party ay kinukurakut pa na……….naku mr. Poor Boy daw…O sige natalo tuloy kay Apo lakay…..
During the Marcos Time:
Opppsssss mas lalong malaki at magarbo itong time na ito…….
Q- Nasaan kaya iyong maga kinita sa Sugar Industries at Coconut Idustries……
A- Ayyy aywan pero kung tatanugn po ninyol ako b aka may maisagut po ako sa inyo.
Q- Sino kaya ang mayhawag ng mga ito.
The Helicopter deal between the US/PI. oppps again nariyan lang po tabi ninyo.
How about the Gold Reserve….Opppps … ano kaya iyong Korean Deal na bilihan…
Opppsss ano ba iyong One Hundred Generals na ang porsiento ay One Million.oppps
Whowwww ang ganda naman ng Ten Five Stars Hotel sa Manila, opppps 10% ba..
Ano po iyong Three lines of netiations para sa kurakut ito ang mga sumusunod:
M-Line na dapat magdaan sa isang General…ahhhh lahat ng Military Project…oppps
E-Line na Private Transaction, Loans at iba pa at kasama pa si Mr. Dis..Pinsan..ayyy.
E-Line na naman kaya minsan compuse ang mga tao kaya may away kung E-1 or E-2
Nasaan po ba ang 12 Billion Dollars noong panahon na iyon…ayy ngayon absuelto.
Nakuuuu nakalimutan ata ninyo na may pang-apat na line pa ang famous V-Line.
Bakit ba inalis si Gov. Li.. ng Central Bank at pumalit si Gov. Laya …bakit/ano kaya
Oppps, mayroon ba tayong bagong Minahan ng Gold sa Mindanao saan napunta ang
mga Gold…..oppppps sabi ng iba hindi sa Swiss…….baka naman sa Locsatine ba…
opppps anng Banko ang nadadag sa South America.oppppps kasa ba si Mistiso doon..
ahhhh hingi pueli ilipat sa Hong-Kong o sa Germany dahil sa mainit…….Ok lang…
Bayan anoooo ba naman kayo…..Ngayon mahirap pa kayo sa daga dahil sa history ng Corruption sa ating Bansa, kayo rin po ang maykasalan ohhh ayan kapit tuko iyong mga tuta, sa BIR, sa Cstom, sa Education , Basta may Lagay ayos na, Basta Maalig pagkakaperahan ayas pa rin halukay ditto ng lagay halukay doon sa Mil.itary sa Private3 ayyyyyy naku ito pong period n g History natin alagng nagnalagay sa History n gating Bayan sa pina masahul na history. Ayyyyy bayan kasalan din po ninyo ito.
Dumating na ang Liwanag ng Bayan .
Panahon ng Butihing Pangulo ng Bayan Corazon Aquino.
Opppps, wala po akong masasabi dahil mabait at kagalanggalang po ang atings President. Kilala ko na po siya kahit po noong panahon ni Apo Lakay. Kasi po ang office ko po sa Import-Export ay nasa Building po nila ni Len at ng mga Aquino sa may Roxas Blvd. (Ermita Building) at doon po kami nagmeeting sa Exclusive Pent House sa pinakaitaas ng Bldg. after office hours at painauusapan po naming ang lagay ng bayan sa panahon ni Apo Lakay. Naroroon po ang mga ibat-ibang Business People Excutives at salamat naman napasama po ako sa Groupo. Pinaguusapan po naming ang mga Corruption noong mga panahon na iyon ni Apo Lakay. Kaya po noong magkaroon ng EDSA 1 ay naririto na po ako sa US at tutulong sa pagbasak at Invstigatio ng mga kalukuhan ni Apo Lakay at nmg mga Tuta niya. Ok nap o sana ang kanyang time pero mayroon pa rin pong mga nakalusut na katiwalian na hindi naman po siya kasama at walang kinalaman. Ito po ang mga tanong ko….
Sino kaya ang nakinabang sa pagbili ng Training Planes na galing sa Sikuslubkajjjya…..
Sino kaya ang nagfinance sa Europe…oppps at sino kaya ang tumanggap ng Masaratiiiiii.
Sino kaya ang Head ng Department of Finance na dating kurakut noong panahon ni Apolakay…..ahhhh iyon din ba ang President ng isang Banko na humingin ng 350 THOUSAND PESOS sa aming Pabahay Program sa GSIS noong 70’s..Ayyyy eywan ko lang mukhang kamukha at kalbo pa……Joke..Joke…..
Sa Panahon ni Apo Lakay the Second:
Naku maraming-marami poi to ay panahon ng mga Militar, ng mga Private Construction Firm at panahon ng mga Private Sector at panahon ng Hong-Kong deal at Hong-Kong Bank…..at panahon ng Taguan ng mga kurakut…ang dami kasi marami pong natinggang transaction noong naunang Apo Lakay. Hanggang ngayon ay uso po ang Protectionan n mga kuakut noon….Mas Grabi po…..
Sa panahon ni President ng Mahihirap…..
Iyan po wala po ako masasabi sa inyo dahil po Panahon ng mga bida ng Bayan….Kustahin nalanmg po antin iyong mga Actors and actress sa pan hon ito,
Oppsss may isa tayong famous Apo akay na doubly-kara…na may Submarinoi…may Herlicopter…oppsss kumusta po iyong ating Virgina Tobacco Business….ahhhh successful naman pa la..ehhhh nasaan po ang mga pera….anoooo,,wala din..ayyy ewan.
Sino po ang ANGGGGG ….na sinasabi ninyo ……aoooo kumusta ang hueting ayyy ok din naman po pala……oppppps ang Airline Industries po kumusta po rin….oppppps ok din naman pop ala…….Kumusta po iyong mga Militar na kaibigan natin…masaya nap o ba sila sa kinikita nila pati nap o iyong mga Pulis natin….ahhhhh ok naman po din sila….ayyyy naku wala po talaga tayong masasabi diyan sa ating naging pangulo….
Ohooooo….oppps…bakit p okay anagawa na puesto ……..kasi po napakabait ninyo…
Talagang wala po akong masasabi sa inyo Mr. President at napak,a POGIIIIII PO NINYO………ayyyyyy Bayan Ko….aywannnn ko ba……
MARANGAL KO PONG IPINAKIKILALA SA INYO SI MRS. ARROYO NA HINDI PO NAMAN NANG PRESIDENTE NG BAYANG PILIPINAS SABI LANG NIYA AT NG KANYANG MGA MANIFICENT SEVEN….SINO PO SILA…
No. 1 Mr. Secretary ng Justice..ang inyong likud na nagkakatuling na sa pagsisinungalin at pagtatangul sa kanyang amo. Mahilig po sa upppsbtrccccuution of Justce. Hindi pa na fafaile ang mga caso may sistencia na…..ibibitin ka rin naming pagnahuli ka naming.
No. 2 Secretary Ermita, Tuta ng isang Ex-General na naghahold ng mga sundalo ngayon para lang marpotectionan si Ginang Arroyo….Magkano ba an Lagay………Hatiaan bas a mga ninakaw hindi Percentage…..Nanglalaki na ang mga ilong mo kagaya ni Mr. V noong panahon ni Apo Lakay. Ibibitin ka rin naming……hidi ka pa sumasagut sa hamon ko sa iyo ng Duelo..isa-isa lang…
No. 3. Secretary Reyes. Mukhang bubait na kayo kasi po nahahalata na ninyo na kayo ay kasama sa b ahu at kabulukan ni Mrs. Arroyo. Pero may kasalanan din kaya ang hatol ay ibitin din ng patuwad.
No. 4 Ex-Speaker- Salamat naman nayon ay na Double Cross din kayo ni Gnang Arroyo….sabi ko na sa inyo Bayan ohhhh ayan lumalabas na ang baho nila Mrs. Arroyo na galling sa kanya…..pero ang hindi niya alam ay amoy imburnal pa rin siyaaaaaaaa.
No. 5 Mrs. Senator…..Alam mo na kung sino ka…..sabi noong mga nakaraaaang ..segue pag maynangyari ilalagay ko iyong baril ko sa ulo kong sira p;ero ginawa ba ninyo hindi patuloy parin kayong kalayado at taga pagtangul ni Mrs. Arroyoooo, Bitin din ang aabutin mo.
No. 6 Secretario ng Bunyag-ng Bunyag…..ayyyyynaku wala na kaming magagawa sa iyo…bunyag doon, pakita ng walang kuenta ebidensia tapos babain…..nagmumukha tanga na kayo Mr. Bunyag pati iyong amo mo nsasabit na sa iyong kalukuhan.. Bitin din kayo.
No. 7 Mr. Secretario dati ng ano iyong NDRRRRR ba at Taga pagtangul ni Mrs. Arroyo.
Oooohhh ano nasaan ka na ngayon Mr. Lover Boy ng Malacanang . Nagtatago at panay na ang iwas moooooo,,ahhhhh kasi naaamoy mo na malapit na ang amo sa hukay kasama Karin.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ayan bayan ko alam na ninyi ang Members ng magnificent Seven.
Segueeeeee tuloy po tayo sa ating ralliesssssss at pagsisiwalat ng kabulukan ni Mrs. Arroyoooo.
Suggestion: Pagnatapos na ang laa na ito ang Picture ni Mrs. Arroyo sa listahan ng President of the Philippines ay XXXXXXXXXXXXXX walang picture periodddd.
ED ALCARAZ says:
March 13th, 2008 at 12:22 am
March 11, 2008
From: Kuya Ed -Bayan Ko USA
To: All our Kababayan sa Pilipinas
MESSAGE NO. 6
To all my kababayan sa Pilipinas, Good Morning po uli sa inyong lahat diyan . Last night I stayed long in front of my TV up to 2 P.M. just to see what’s happening in the Senate Floor with the new witnesses on the ZTE scandals. I was surprised again and can not believe why the person like San Miguel can double cross flat footed, Senator Lacson and the Senate. Sabi ko sa sarili ko “Wala na talagang malakas ang hakut ng pagdarambang sa atin Bayan.” The way I look it last night, that the Money Kurakut won again. Wala na talaga tayong shame sa sarili natin. In Japan, Korea, Singapore, USA and other parts of the World, pag ang President o Prime Minister ay naakusahan ng mga grabing allegation o corruption, next day you will see him “RESIGNING”, but in the Philippines, pakapalan na lang ng mukha kahit huling-huli na. Tingnan mo ang pagmumukha ni Mrs. Arroyo noong Garci scandals sa TV na nagsabing “ I AM SORRY”. Last two weeks ago “NAGSORRY NANAMAN” tapos following day binawi niya ang tungkul sa allegation ng pagpermahan sa scandalous Project ng ZTE at kinancel daw pa niya dahil sa Bayan.
Bayan ko seguehannnnn na po ninyo, ipakita natin sa Mrs. Arroyong iyan na tayo ay may talino rin at hindi kayang “GAGOHIN ng isang kamukha niya na nakasampay lang sa isang dating head ng state of the Philippines. Kita na ninyo sa TV kahapon, magkasama na naman sila ni “KALBONG PAYATOT” na si Apo Lakay II sa another na pangaagaw ng Leadership ng Lakas Party. Wala na bang gagawin si Mrs. Arroyo kung hindi mang-agaw ng Power oooooehhhhhh kaya ay ‘MAGNAKAW NG KABAN NG BAYAN”.
Una ninakaw niya ang Puesto ni Erap, tapos pinaagaw naman iyong Leadership sa Lower House ng Senate, ngayon inagaw na naman ang Leadership ng Lakas.Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy Mrs, Arroyo wala ka nang pag-asa.
At iyong mga Magnificent 7 Members niya..ayan lumabas na naman…Naku Mrs.Gonnnn, talagang iang pag mumukha mo sa TV walang asensu lalo pa sumasama….
Daldal ka ng daldal sa TV News kahapon pero wala naming sa topic iyong sinasabi at isinasgut mo sa question sa inyo kaya ayon, pati iyong Announcer ng ABS-CBN NAIINIS NA SA INYO, gusto na sanang cutin kayo at iiling-ling na pero talagang makapal ang pagmumukha ninyo.
Pati ba naman si Malaking Ilong lumabas din kahapon after the San Miguel testimony sa Senate at masayang-masaya na wala daw katutuhanan iyong mga sinasabi nila Lozada, JV Jr, at ni Madriaga. MAGKANO KAYA ANG LAGAY DIYAN SA MGA SUWAPANG AT WALANG PAGMAMAHAL SA BAYAN NA MGA TAONG DOUBLE CROSSERS…………….AHHHHH.. FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND PESOS……kasi iyan ang standard daw ng Palacio.
Maawa naman Mrs. Arroyo sa mga taong mahihirap..tingnan na lang ninyo iyong mga tao sa Navotas ng Isla Pulo…..mga Batang nanghihirap , gumagawa lang Uling para mabuhay kayo panay ang nakaw nnyo ng Million-Milliong Dollar pa…..Mrs. Arroyo hintayin ninyo ang GALIT NG BAYAN…. Iyan ay malapit na SUBRANG SUBRA NA KAYOOOOOO…..MAY KATAPUSAN DIN ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY…..
Mr. Apo Lakay II , Mr. Senator na Apo Lakay III napuna ang Bayan kahit magtao kayo sa lunga at saya ng mga asawa ninyo, hahabulin din naming kayo.
SUBRAAAAA KA NA RIN APO LAKAY II, biro hanggang ngayon ay nakikialam ka pa rin sa ating Bayan……di bali sana kung sa pagunlad ng Bayan at pagtatanggul sa Bayan pero ang mga ginagawa ninyo ni Apo Lakay III ay guluhin ang Bayan para ang mga KURAKUT NINYO ay maprotectionan……Dapat sa iyo ay ibitin din ng Patuwad pati si Apo Lakay III.
MGA KABATAAN SEGUE WALANG NANG TIGIL AT STOPAGE TAYOOOO, BANATAN NA NATIN NG HUSTO AT WALANG IWANAN…SUBRA NA ANG MGA ARROYONG IYAN AT KANYANG MAGNIFICENT 7……MALASIN NINYO BAYAN KO ANG MGA TAONG NASA BASURAHAN AT SA BANGKETA NA WALANG MAKAIN, ANG MGA KABATAANG PUSLIT NA NASA DAAN AT HUBAD-HUBAD, ANG MGA TAONG NAMAMATAY SA SAKIT AT WALANG PAG ASANG MAGAMUT DAHIL SA KAHAYOPANG AT KASAKIMAN NG MGA ARROYO……PANAHON NA PARA MAGBAYAD ANG MGA SUKAB NA PINUNU NG ATING BAYAN…..
FOR LOZADA: PLEASE REMEMBER THE FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE OF SUPREME COURT- ANG MAGINOONG JOSE ABAD SANTOS- IT IS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO DIE FOR OUR COUNTRY RATER THAN TO GO TO THE SIDE OF THE INVIDER NOT EVERY BODY IS GIVEN THIS CHANGE…
ANO ANG SABI NI PUNONG BALIMBING: HINDI NINYO MAPAPAALIS SI GINANG ARROYO KASI WALA NAMAN KAYONG KURAKUT NA SALAPI NG BAYAN NA MAGAGAMIT. ISA KA PANG MADARAMBUNG PUNONG BALIMBING..TINGNAN MO ANG PAGMUMUKHA MO SA TV PARA KA BABOY SA TAMBAKAN NA GUTOM NA GUTOM….. ISA KANG MAKAPILI NG MODERN GENERATION NG PILIPINAS. WALANG KARAPATAN NA MAMALAGI SA POSITION NA IBINIGAY SA IYO NG BUSABUS NA SI MRS. ARROYO……. MAKAKAPAL TALAGA AN M,GA MUKHA NINYO MAAWA KAYO SA ATING MGA KABABAYAN….
BAYAN ANO PAAAAA ANG HINIHINTAY NATIN…SUGURIN NA NATIN ANG MGA TAONG WALANG PUSO AT PAKUNDANGAN SA ATING MGA BATAS…TOTAL SILA NAMAN AY HINDI SUMUSUNOD SA MGA BATAS NATIN……PANAY ANG PAIKUT NILA NGAYON TAYO AY KARAPATAN DIN NA IPALABAN ANG ATNG SALIGANG BATAS…..SEGUE SUGOD NA….IPAKITA NATIN ANG LAKAS NG BAYAN…..GOD BLESS THE PHILIPPINESSSSSSSS…..
KUYA ED BUHAT SA AMERICA
hahaha! kuratong baklengleng!! kuratong baklengleng!!!
Noon
Senatong: cge kidnap na boys, eto address.
Boys: kuha na po namin instik sir.
Senatong: O sige akin na money. punta ko diyan. wag kau sumbong ha, papatayin ko sister nyo at ihuhulog sa chopper pamangkin nyo.
Boys: ok sir.
Senatong: Ok boys eto na kami surprise! bang! bang! bratatattatat! yes ubos baleleng boys. ok takbo nako senador.
ngayon
Senatong: mga kababayan poprotektahan ko kayo sa mga taong mandarambong at mga nangingidnap.
Mga Tao: Galing ni Senator, ipinaglalaban ang bayan.
(sa isang simbahan)
-premyadong speech-
Lozada: ako po ang ilaw ng katotohanan. Puro sinungaling sila, lahat sila demonyo, mga magnanakaw. Ako hindi, bait ako eh. kawawa na nga ako sobra di ba mga kabataan? di ba father? di ba sister? Bishop? Ako po may kredibilidad, malaki po ang tiwala sa akin ni Sen. Lacson at Jamby Madrigal. Yung mga senador na kumakalaban sa akin, may tsismis po ako sa inyo dyan. Mga taongbayan mag-people power na po tato. malaki na po ang isinakripisyo ko sa bayang ito. Maihahalintulad nyo po sa akin si Jose Rizal at si Luke Skywalker. Ako ang inyong tagapagligtas. Pero wala akong pangarap maging bayani, gusto ko lamang umikot sa lahat ng school para malaman nyo kung gaano sila kademonyo at ako hindi ko alam na maililigtas ko pala ang mga kaluluwa ninyo. kaya dapat nga po magpasalamat kayo sa akin, tulad ng iba na nakapagbigay na po ng donasyon. Siyanga po pala pinayaga na rin po ako nila Bishop Oscar Cruz, Deogracias Iniguez, Teodoro Bacani at Antonio Tobias na makapag- healing mass. Kaya ko na rin po yun. Sa totoo lang po, rpbinsiyanong intsik lang po ako. Mahirap lang po ako. Hindi po totoong nakakapagpaaral ako sa la salle kasi mahal dun. Basta lahat po ng sasabihin nila laban sa akin ito ito po ang itatak nyo sa mga utak nyo, kasinungalingan po yun. At ang lahat po ng sasabihin ko kahit sa anong bagay ay katotohanan po. Totoo po na nangabit ako pero napatawad na kami ng misis ko. Nagkasala na po ako aaminin ko. nangabit ako, pero sa tanang buhay ko hindi pa ho ako nakakapagsinungaling. paano po ba yun? marahil lahat kayong kasama ko rito aaminin nyo sa mga sarili nyo yan, dahil tayo ay tao lamang. marupok sa mga temptasyon. Sa akin po walang umubrang ganyan. Siyanga pala po may bago na naman po akong death threat at ngayon po umaabot na sa isang bilyon ang patong sa noo ko. Kung bakit ko po alam yan, aba siyempre ikinikuwento sa akin ng assassin, medyo palakuwento nga po kaya kahit tuloy yung detalye ng pagpapatay sa akin nalalaman ko.
nangilid ang luha at umiling-iling bumulalas ng iyak.... Huhuhu kawawa naman ako, ako na lang ang pag-asa ng bayang ito... huhuhu...
(nag-ring bigla yung Phone)
Lozada: hey, joey potang-ina naman nag-i-speech pa ko dito eh.
Joey: potang ina mamaya na yan golf muna tayo, potang ina mo.
Lozada: Potang ina neto nagugutom ako, kain muna ako lamb chops tsaka mga sosyal na pagkain.
Joey: Potang ina mo naman noh.
Lozada: Potang ina kausap ko pa kabataan eh, dami nga taga PUP dito eh sunod ng sunod sakin, bro dami magandang chicks ha. kay potang ina mo mag-isa ka muna.
Joey: Potang ina mo ulol!
Lozada: Potang ina mo rin panot pakshit ka!
Joey: Fuck-off!
(nag-feedback yung mic)
Bishop: Mr. Lozada, "moderate your voice.
Lozada: Nakita nyo po mga kababayan, meron na naman po akong bagong natanggap na death threat mula sa gobyernong arroyo.
Student: paano nyo po nalaman na gobyerno yun?
Lozada: Halata naman po, walang duda. Kasi po sinabi po nung kausap ko ngayon na may nakapagsabi sa kanya na kaibigan nung kapatid ko na narinig nya habang nagkukuwentuhan yung dalawang tao na tauhan ng gobyerno habang na nakarinig nung death threat laban sa akin at diyan po pumasok yung invlovement ni mike arroyo. alam na alam ko po ang detalye..
Students: Grabe! nakaka-shock talaga ang gobyerno. Klarong, klaro na may kinalaman sa assassination plot Mike arroyo.
Malamang si Mike Arroyo ang tunay na FLorentino Igtiben pero may nagppanggap lang para makapagsinungaling na lang sila.
Senatong Baleleng: Mr. Lozada, pano ba isasagaw ang planong pagpatay sa iyo?
Lozada: Alam ko pero, ayaw ko na munang magsalita. Ayoko naman ng ganito marami na tuloy nagpapa-autograph sakin, mabuti pa po yung assassin na lang ang tanungin nyo.
S. Baleleng: confeeermed na ba ito?
Lozada:aahh... ahhh.. siguro.. siguro.. siguro sigurado ako.
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
March 6, 2008 8:25 PM
March 8, 2008 9:08 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
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Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
March 6, 2008 8:25 PM
March 8, 2008 9:08 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 24, 2008 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...
the fact that the government can wiretap private citizens, be very scared, Filipinos. Martial Law era is back.
mga bulok kayo. I wish i were not a filipino. nakakahiya kayo sa gobyerno. nakakahiya!
February 25, 2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...
remember, it takes a thief to catch a robber.
and that's too bad for gloria.
that does not diminish the credibility of lozada.
he already said to miriam, a gma supporter, mea culpa.
you, mother-fuckers in government should go to hell.
wala kayong mga kuwenta.
February 25, 2008 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...
This person has point...why don't you also post other conversation especially the conversation of FG and Abalos? This, I guess, you'll be fair!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since you obviously have the facility of eavesdropping on anyone, why don't you play fair and publish other cell phone conversations on the defensive side of the scandal, i.e. between abalos and FG, Abalos and Neri, Neri and GMA, Abalos and ZTE, etc. It is pretty clear your mandate is to discredit the detractors of government. Teka, parang gawain ito ni Mike Defensor, a.
February 25, 2008 4:17 AM
Anonymous said...
it is so obvious that this blogger is pro-government. hoy, blogger ikaw ang nabili hindi si Jun. You want aroyo to stay in the government para patuloy ang lagay sa 'yo. Mahiya ka!
lalabas din ang baho n'yo!
February 25, 2008 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Patriots for Truth? why do you hide your identity/ties?
Why post only conversations of lozada & joey? Post all conversations including that of GMA, FG, Mikey, Dato, Abalos, Nograles, JDV, Villafuerte, Razon, Atienza, Defensor, Mendoza, Formoso, etc.
Obviously, you're on a demolition job from dirty tricks dept of the government.
February 25, 2008 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...
sayang kayong lahat. I should not freakin care. I am in the US. I have a good job, good life, good family. kayo ang mga nabubulok sa Pilipinas. Alam n'yo ang totoo pero tinatakpan n'yo. kung alam n'yo lang ang mga baho ng mga arroyo sa hongkong, sa switzerland, sa America, kukulo ang dugo ninyo sa galit. Pinoprotektahan n'yo ang mga magnanakaw. Kunin nyo ang salaping suhol nila at magsabi ng totoo para hindi na lalong magnanakaw. kawawa ang mga mahihirap na mga kababayan natin. KUNIN N'YO ANG LAGAY NG GOBYERNO PERO MAGSABI NG TOTOO. ISUMBONG. KATITING LANG ANG BINIGAY SA INYO. MILYON MILYON ANG NAKAW NILA AT DOLLARS. SAYANG KAYO. SAYANG ANG BLOGGER NA 'TO. SAYANG TALAGA. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. PINAGTATAWANAN KAYO NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA. NASUSUHULAN KAYONG MGA PILIPINO. PERA ANG MGA MUKHA NINYO. NABIBILI ANG INYONG MGA PAGKATAO. SAYANG.
February 25, 2008 11:08 PM
Anonymous said...
kung may isang bagay na dapat ikabahala nating lahat ay marahil hindi kung si Lozad, o si Neri, o si Abalos ay nagsisinungaling dahil malamang lahat sila ay mayroon mga makasariling layunin sa isyung bumabalot sa atin. Pero ang isang bagay na sa tingin ko ay dapat IKABAHALA AT IKATAKOT NG LAHAT ay ang pruwebang buhay na buhay ang wiretapping na isang paglabag sa ating basic human right to privacy. Kung ito ay kayang gawin gn gubyerno natin sa mga mamamayan, ano pa kaya ang kayang gawin ng gobyerno sa atin?
Di ba kayo natatakot????
February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
John Galang said...
i wonder how the timeline for the voice clips looks like...
talks similar to those are common in everyday business transactions, scandalous or not...
your truths (the voice clips), my dear patriots, have to be backed up by timelines and how it was acquired... until then my dear patriots... your truths remain half truths
i hate finding links like to blogs like this in my email
February 28, 2008 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Until there are people like you who can wiretap citizens like us the Philippines will remain in the pits! And I agree, if you claim to love your country why dont you post the wiretaps of FG, Neri, Gloria, Abalos and the rest of those on the other side of this issue? Until then you are all PATRIOTS FOR PAY!
February 29, 2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Mga Militar ba kayo? Bakit kay GMA kayo kampi? Hindi na ba kayo nahihiya sa mga kasama naten sa AFP at PNP na pinarurusahan ng gobyernong ito! May mga Medal of Honor silang mga kinulung ni GMA. Dapat sila ang sinasaluduhan ng Presidente, pero anong nagyari? Dinuduraan lang ni GMA ang mga medalya ng institusyon naten. Winarak nya at dinungisan ang dangal ng ating uniporme. Pagdating ng araw niya, kasama kayong hihilera sa pader!
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...
Will the economy fail if Gloria leaves? Is she the best economist in the Philippines? Can't her successor hire a really good one to manage the economy for the country? Duh... I've had enough of that pro-GMA statement.
March 2, 2008 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Hahaha, pagdating ng panahon na iyon, nasa Cayman Islands na si Gloria, nagii-scuba diving, at pinagtatawanan ang mga Pilipino dahil naisahan niya tayo. Magpapasarap dahil retirado na siya at sasabihin sa atin, "Eh, mga bobo pala kayo, kayo ang naglagay sa akin sa puwesto, eh di pasensiya kayo." Mismo. Isipin ninyo, binoto siya ng masa dahil kamukha niya si Nora Aunor.
"Pero pag dating ng 2010, itaga niyo sa bato, mananalo ang Opposition. At pag dating ng panahon na iyon, Gloria, maghanda ka na. Ikukulong ka namin at wala kang pardon. Ang kapal ng nunal mo. Maghanda ka pagbaba mo."
March 2, 2008 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Economiya? Mukhang mahirap paniwalaan yung mga numero na iyan. Parang galing sa hokus pokus.
Mas magulo kapag nawala si Gloria? Hindi siguro kung magpapaalam siya nang maayos. Kailangan lang talaga mas maraming magsumbong ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari.
Eh, ganun talaga, bulok na bulok na ang sistema. Bakit maraming matinong taong nag-resign sa administrasyon ni Gloria?
Nagtataka ako kung bakit marami pa ring may gusto sa kanya. Marahil, yung mga taong iyon ay:
1. nakikinabang sa mga ginawa niya (taga-call center, etc.)
2. tanga
3. walang sariling disposisyon
4. napahiya sa sarili dahil pinababa si Erap at ang pumalit ay masahol din o mas masahol pa
5. nagaalala na ang mga negosyo nila ay maapektuhan
Sosyalismo (hindi sosyal o kasosyalan) marahil ang pinakamabuti para sa ating lahat.
March 2, 2008 7:37 AM
Rodelio said...
truth? as far as i am concerned, those in malacanang are the ones not telling the whole truth. how come they wont allow mr. neri to come out and testify again? they are hiding in what they so call executive priveledge. why not go out in the open and lets find out who is telling the truth? so far since there is nobody contradicting lozada, he seems to be credible. those in the government cant seem to get their act together by telling different stories. all their stories also contradict each other. so before telling us that lozada is not telling any truth in his testimonies, malacanang should first answer a lot of questions. the nbn deal is just one, what about the fertilizer scam, hello garci, southrail, cyber ed,.. etc. there is your truth.
March 2, 2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...
ayaw nyo ng ibang comment dito? invoke nyo executive privilege. presscon kayo sa malacanang. unity walk kayo ng militar. magsasama kayo ni gma
March 3, 2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
the saint,
bkit ayaw pa continue si neri sa senate hearing ? e pati sa doj ayaw sumipot. si GMA na nagpagawa ng investigation? I agree with you, not all phd holders are competent im not questioning the credibility of mr. neri. but the question here is i guess the qualification as required in CHED chairmanship position. By the way, bakit wala ka comment sa fertilizer scam?
March 4, 2008 12:07 AM
Tirador said...
Maawa kayo kay Gloria, hindi siya sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, at higit sa lahat mamamatay-tao.
Nagkamali lang kayo ng pandinig nung sinabi ni Gloria sa puntod ni Jose Rizal na hindi siya tatakbo sa 2004 eleksiyon. Fake yung video na iyun. Ini-splice lang yun ng ABS-CBN. Pwede ba? Kamag-anak ni Lakandula yan, tapos yung asawa niya kamag-anak ng mga santo, maaari bang magsinungaling si Gloria? Kapal ninyo!
March 5, 2008 2:46 AM
Tirador said...
Hindi rin siya mandaraya 'no! Hindi totoo yung Hello Garci, si Candy Pangilinan lang yun. Gawa rin ng ABS-CBN. Hindi totoong merong mother of all tapes si Sammy Ong, yung kay Bunye ang totoo - si Gary talaga ang kausap ni Gloria. Kanino pa ba tayo maniniwala e di sa TRUTH. Si Bunye lang ang dapat paniwalaan!
Totoo namang 98% ng mga rehistrado sa Cebu ang bumoto sa kanya. Wala namang nanonood kay FPJ na Cebuano. Walang sineng Tagalog doon, iba yata ang Cebu kaya imposibleng may fans si FPJ doon.
Nung eleksiyon lahat ng Cebuano umuwi, lahat ng OFW nagbakasyon sa Pilipinas para bumoto sa presinto, yung mga estudyante sa Maynila lagi namang may pamasahe sila para umuwi, wala yatang mahirap sa Cebu! Isa pa, walang namamatay doon, wala ring nagkakasakit, wala ngang tao na nasa edad ng pagboto ang nasa ospital, walang nagtrabaho nung araw ng eleksiyon walang lumipat ng tirahan at lahat ng negosyo na kailangang bumili ng paninda sa ibang isla, tigil muna dahil lahat sila bumoto kay Gloria.
Kahit pa malakas ang ulan nung araw ng eleksiyon, lahat ng Cebuano bumoto. Siyempre si Gloria lang ang ibinoto.
Ganoon din sa Maguindanao, hindi naman totoong dinukot yung titser. na-soft touch lang ni Garci kidnap ba yon? Susmaryosep! Zero nga si FPJ doon dahil hindi siya paborito ng mga Muslim. Yung kwentong binabaril ng mga muslim yung telon ng sinehan pag may kalaban si FPJ na hindi niya napapansin, kalokohan iyon.
Ano naman kung sa sagingan binibilang ang mga boto? Sa Antipolo nga, sa bahay lang ni Roque Bello bumoto ang mga tao, sasabihin nandaya? Kasalanan ba ni Gloria na yung 200,000 na botante e pare-pareho ang thumbmark at pirma. Malaking angkan siguro kaya mana-mana sila. Siyempre kung magkakamag-anak malamang iisa ang eskuwelahan kaya pare-pareho ang sulat.
Sa Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur, Basilan, Sulu, South Cotabato talagang halos Zero si FPJ doon. Mahal yata ng mga Muslim si Gloria, biruin ninyo mahuhuli na ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa ospital sa Lamitan, pinatakas ng mga heneral dahil kawawa naman. Yung sa Basilan, tignan ninyo, pinugutan yung 10 sundalo nagalit ba si Gloria? Hindi, kasi mahal niya yung mga Muslim! Mayabang lang kasi yung si Wahab Akbar, ayun, buti nga, pinasabog sa Batasan. Ganyang pagmamahal ang ibinabalik ni Gloria sa mga Muslim dahil nga Zero si FPJ doon sa Mindanao.
Tapos sasabihin mandaraya?
March 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Tirador said...
Lalo namang hindi magnanakaw si Gloria. Lahi nila ang mga disenteng tao. Biruin nyo, labandera raw ang Lola niya, nakatapos ang tatay niya ng abugasiya. Kaya nga tinawag na Poor Boy From Lubao si Ka Dadong dahil lahing mahirap.
Malaki siguro ang sweldo ng presidente noon, diba? Kaya naman nakapag-aral si Gloria sa Assumption sa San Lorenzo at napamanahan pa ng mahirap na ama niya ng bahay sa Forbes Park. No, hindi corrupt ang tatay niya. Malay ninyo, nakapulot ng pera kaya nakapagretiro sa Forbes Park.
Kahit pa ang kalsada sa Reclamation na ipinangalan sa ama niya ang pinakamahal na kalsada sa buong solar system o Milky Way Galaxy walang kinalaman silang mag-asawa diyan.
Yung $14M na suhol ng IMPSA, tinipid lang talaga ng IMPSA yung kontrata kaya si Nani Perez lang ang nabigyan ng $2M doon sa kontratang pinapirmahan niya sa ikalawang araw ng panunungkulan ni Gloria.
Hindi naman nakinabang si Gloria sa P4B Road Users Tax. Nagkataon lang na yung mga nagwawalis ng mga highway ay sabay-sabay na nagsuot ng asul na T-shirt na may malaking tatak na GMA. Siguro yun lang ang mabibiling T-shirt nung panahong iyon kaya nagkapare-pareho, sasabihin na naman kinotongan tayo ni Gloria!
Yung P1B pera ng OFWs na nasa OWWA tapos inilipat sa Philhealth walang anomalya doon, pwede ba? Kasalanan ni Duque na may mukha ni Gloria yung card na ipinamigay sa isang milyong tao bago mag-eleksiyon. Walang kaalam-alam si Gloria doon. Siya lang ang nag-abot sa mga tao ng card nung kampanya. Nalaman rin niya siguro na nagkamali si Duque dahil pagkatapos ng eleksiyon hindi na siya namigay uli. Sa mga OFWs okey lang iyun, isang Bilyon lang naman pala e. Buti nga sila may trabaho e.
Alin yung fertilizer fund ni Jocjoc? Ano naman kung naglaho yung fertilizer nung panahong iyon. Tag-araw yata kaya nag-evaporate sa tindi ng init, mahirap bang paniwalaan yan? Nagkamali lang si Jocjoc ng pagbili ng fertilizer, pang-orchids pala iyon kaya naman wala ring nakinabang na magsasaka. Hindi bale sa susunod, pang-palay na talaga ang bibilhin. Gago kasi yang si Jocjoc. At walang kinalaman diyan si Gloria. Saka sinong may sabing walang taniman sa Makati? Nabigyan ng P3M halaga ng fertilizer si Teddy Locsin dahil may mga palayan diyan sa Makati. Hindi lang siguro ninyo napapansin. Lahat ng Congressman na Lakas, Kampi, LP, at iba pang kaalyado ni Gloria bago mag-eleksiyon lahat sila may palayan sa distrito kahit sa Sulu kaya lahat may milyones na fertilizer. Hindi ba ninyo alam na sa Sulu tumutubo na ngayon ang palay sa ilalim ng dagat? Itanong pa ninyo kay Jocjoc, totoo yan!
Yung mga Northrail, Southrail, NBN-ZTE, Cyber-Ed, parehas na project iyan, walang kupit iyan. Pasalamat nga tayo lalagyan na ni Gloria ng WiMax yung barangay hall at malilit na paaralan sa mga bundok, kahit walang computer, o kahit na kuryente, at least, naka WiMax sila. Siguro naman sa loob ng 25 taon, magkakaroon narin sila ng computer at kuryente para magamit yang NBN at Cyber-ed, diba?
Sinong may sabing mahal yung project na yun? Ang mga eksperto yata ang lumakad ng project na iyan. May tatalo pa ba kay Abalos pagdating sa pagbili ng computers? Siya na yata ang pinakamagaling diyan. Expert siya talaga, siya lang ang kauna-unahang nakapagcomputerize ng pagboto sa Pilipinas 'no! Kumpleto na tayo ng gamit diyan. Bago pa dumating yung 2004 elections, meron na tayo, hindi lang nagamit. P1.8B lang naman iyon, e eto ngang NBN P16B at Cyber-eD P20B e.
Yung Northrail, at Southrail walang illegal doon. Obsolete na talaga yung design ng China dahil nga mura iyon. Gusto ba natin ng modernong riles at tren, e di lalo lang magmamahal. Mas duda pa nga dapat tayo dun sa project ng mga Koreano na magdudugtong sa North at Southrail dahil KALAHATI lang ang presyo kada kilometro. Malay natin baka magka-giyera pa ang Korea sa China dahil lumalabas tinaga tayo ng China. Talagang yang mga Intsik, kurakot. Pero sila lang. Walang kamalay-malay diyan si Gloria. Porke't ba siya ang nag-aapruba sa kontrata may lagay na siya?
Marami pang paratang na nagnakaw daw si Gloria, hindi naman totoo. Yung kotong kay Pics Marcelo sa Telecoms Clearinghouse wala siyang kinalaman doon, kahit pa inamin nung matalik na kaibigan ni Gloria na si Bing Rodrigo (sumalangit nawa) na hinihingian ni FG si Marcelo para ma-recall yung veto sa prangkisa. Imbento lang iyon ng isang taong malapit nang mamatay.
Yung $70M na hiningi sa Fraport nung Assistant ni Gloria na kaklase niya sa Assumption (sino na nga yun?) para masolo ng Fraport ang Piatco kagagawan lang nung babae yun. Walang alam si Gloria diyan. Nag-iimbento lang yung mga German. Alam naman ninyo ang mga Aleman, walang katotohanan ang mga sinasabi niyan.
Naku marami pa yata akong nakalimutan na paratang. Wala lahat yang katotohanan. Kahit yung anak na si Mikey nga, matapos maging Vice Governor ng Pampanga mula zero naging P70M ang dineklarang net worth sa SALN, ngayon yata P200M na. Siyempre naman artista yata yun. Sikat na sikat ang mga pelikula niya. Kaya nga mas malakas siyang kumita kay Sharon Cuneta dahil sa dami ng fans niya. Hindi lang siya mahusay umarte, mas marami siyang fans kay Sharon siguro.
Alin yung, Pidal accounts, kay Iggy talaga yun. Nagkataon lang na mas malapit ang pirma ni Boss Mike sa pirma dun sa papel kesa kay Iggy. Mas mayaman naman talaga si Iggy e. Porke ba umuupa lang si Iggy ng bungalow sa Bacolod na tig-kinse mil at ang mga upuan niya sa dining set ay monobloc, mahirap na siya? Hindi. P4B ang dumaan na pera sa account ni Jose Pidal kaya kahit hindi makopya ni Iggy yung pirma, okey naman raw sabi ng PNP Crime Lab chief Mosqueda na kaaway ni Sandra Cam. Matagal na nga naman yung pirma na yun. Hawig lang talaga sa...
Yung mga bahay sa California, kay Iggy rin iyun, peke lang yung mga papeles na nagbigay kay Iggy ng karapatang ibenta ito. Siya na nga ang may-ari, bibigyan pa siya ng Power of Attorney ng mag-asawang Gloria at Mike? Madali lang naman mameke ng papeles sa Amerika, diba? Madali rin lagyan yung mga nasa gobyerno doon kaya merong ganoong papeles na hawak si Lacson.
Ay naku, ang daming anomalya na kesyo nagnakaw si Gloria, si Mike, si Mikey, ngayon pati si Dato pa. Nung nangampanya si Dato umorder pa lang ng mga computer na ipamimigay sa mga eskuwela hinarang na dahil malaki raw ang patong at saka mas kailangan daw na ipagawa yung mga paaralan na nasalanta ng bagyo bakit computer ang inuuna. Siyempre, pagkatapos ng bagyo kailangan mag-compute sila ng gagastusin sa paggawa ng mga eskwelahan. Saka malaki ba ang patong e mura lang naman yung mga computer ni Dato. Tig-P250,000.00 lang ang isang set, MAHAL BA IYON? Itong computer ko nga kabibili ko lang dalawang linggong nakaraan inabot na ng P40,000.00 ($1000)dahil mumurahing Dell Inspiron 9100z lang ito na naka 19inches LCD at naka Windows Vista. Malay natin baka 40 inches yung mga monitor na inorder ni Dato. At saka ito 4GB RAM at 320GB HDD lang malay natin baka 64GB RAM at yung disk ay 4TB na yung kay Dato. Baka 1,000 CD titles pa iyun. Sasabihin kaagad malaki ang komisyon? Magisip-isip naman sila. Niloloko lang tayo ng mga iyan. Puro sila akusa, akala nila sa atin mga tanga?
Walang magnanakaw sa pamilya ni Gloria, at lalo na si Gloria diba mga kasama?
March 5, 2008 4:53 AM
tirador said...
Bakit ba sila tuwang-tuwa kay Lozada. Sinungaling yan. Di katulad ni Chavit puro katotohanan lang ang sinasabi.
Ang yaman ni Chavit totoong nanggaling lang sa isang gabing panalo sa mahjong. P300M daw ang napanalunan niya kaya mayaman na siya. Paniwalaan dapat ang mga ganyang tao. Siya ang tunay na hero!
Nagkahiyaan lang nun sa senado kaya naamin ni Chavit na Jueteng Lord siya, pero payag naman siyang magpakulong basta kasama si Erap. Ayun, nakulong si Erap, buti na lang matalino tayo hindi tao umimik kaya hindi nakulong si Chavit, heheh.
Naaalala pa ba ninyo si Jun Ducat? Diba daldal ng daldal sa radyo at tv na kesyo korap si ganito, korap si ganyan, akala tuloy ni Chavit tinatawag siya dahil puro korap ang sinasabi ni Ducat kaya naman pinuntahan niya. Ayos naman ang drama, napasuko siya ni Chavit eksaktong pagdating ng oras ng primetime news. Malas lang si Chavit dahil sa ginawa niyang maging hero uli, hindi naman siya binoto ng mga tao. Dinaya siya siguro! Diba, siya ang namber wan sa Maguindanao base kay Lintang Bedol? Tapos ng special elections at recount si Zubiri bigla ang namber wan. Nadaya si Chavit! Niyari ang hero ng EDSA2!
Ikukumpara pa nila kay Clarissa Ocampo si Lozada. Si Clarissa pagkatapos tumestigo sa impeachment, ayun, ginawa na ni Gloria na direktor sa dalawang korporasyon ng gobyerno, mapera na siya kahit hindi siya magtrabaho. E si Lozada, pagkatapos tumestigo, patago-tago pa rin! Gutom pa siya ngayon.
Yung dalawang sekretarya ni Chavit na tumestigo sa jueteng, ngayon mga director na at member ng Board ng Poro Point Development Corp. matapos agawin ni Chavit yung control sa puerto mula sa dating may-ari. Si Lozada, ano na?
Hoy, huwag niyo kami gawing tanga. Alam namin ang totoo at imbento lang. Hindi totoong bumiyahe si Lozada sa Hong Kong. Diba walang tatak ang passport niya? Tapos sasabihin ninyong kinidnap siya sa airport hindi nga umalis e di hindi dumating. Ganun din ang sabi ninyo kay Garci, walang tatak ang passport niya, kinuntsaba pa ninyo yung Central Bank para sabihing peke yung pinakitang passport ni Garci. Ano akala ninyo sa amin tanga?
Evil yang si Lozada tignan mo kung sino ang mga kasama, mga pari, mga madre, mga brothers, obispo diba?
Si Gloria imposibleng Evil dahil tignan ninyo ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya, sila Raul Gonzales, Ermita, Apostol, Bunye, Saludo, Golez. Sinong grupo sa palagay ninyo ang mas mukhang kapanipaniwala? Sino sa palagay ninyo ang pinaniniwalaan. Sino ang tunay na Evil?
Akala nila kung sino silang magsalita. Sabi nga ni Gloria, nakakausap niya ang diyos, alangan namang magsinungaling si Gloria 'no? Totoo yun. Ganun din si Pastor Quiboloy, ganun din ang sabi ng diyos niya sa kanya.
Kung ayaw nilang maniwala sila ang mga tanga.
March 5, 2008 5:27 AM
tirador said...
anonymous,
e ikaw lang naman yata ang nagbabasa at sumusulat dito tignan mo sa taas, kinakausap at inaaway mo pa ang sarili mo.
Basta ako kay Gloria pa rin ako. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko. totoo yan. Masakit yan sa mga kumakalaban sa kanya, kasi mga tanga sila!
Kanino ka ba talaga? Magpakilala ka nga.
Kung totoong maka Gloria ka, sabihin mo nga kung alin sa dinami-dami ng sinabi ko ang mali?
Maka-Erap ka yata o maka-oposisyon. Basahin mong paulit-ulit yung mga sinulat ko.
Buksan mo yung isipan mo.
Pinupuri ko nga si Gloria, tinatawag mo akong gago. Kanino ka ba talaga? Nahihilo ka na?
Mahirap talaga pag kulang sa utak ang isang tao, konting pilipit natataranta na. Nagagalit na.
Hahahaha! Sagot na.
March 5, 2008 5:38 AM
Spratlys Covered-up Too said...
What's so defeaning is your silence on GMA and her cohorts' attempts to hide the truth behind the misuse of executive privilege. If you're really "patriots for truth," why not point out that she open all the books, submit all the documents, be transparent and let the WHOLE TRUTH come out? 'Your slip is showing', 'ika nga ng boss mong si Bunye.
"We, the Patriots for Truth, seek to favor no one. Our mission is to expose the truth, not selective parts of it, but the entire, unsullied truth."
Yeah right, favor no one my a$$.
If you're really sincere, come out in the open, expose yourselves in the media, and bring out all the tapes (and not just your prepared and edited versions).
All of these bull$hit against Lozada and JDVIII DO NOT remove GMA's and her cohorts' culpability. If they all have to go to jail, so be it (including YOU. Yes, YOU, lahat kayo, all accomplices in wire-tapping).
(Baket nga ba si Chavit, isang self-confessed jueteng operator, hindi ipinakulong ni GMA. Baket nga ba?? So anong bull$hit truth ngayon ang pinagsasabi n'yo??)
March 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...
All I can say is you did a great job in tracking or may I say tapping this conversation ang galing mo! but pwede ka rin ba pakiusapan na expose mo rin ang conversation ng ibang kasabwat like FG, Abalos, Neri, GMA and etc kc parang one freaking side lang ang expose mo asan ang truth dun?? please enlighten us!! kung nabubulag man kami...!!
hirap lang kasi masyado na tayong apektado sa sitwasyon tayo ang naghihirap na abangan kung ano mangyayari... me and my family want to know the truth kasi hirap mamuhay sa isang gobyerno na puno ng lies and corruption. Nakakapagod na po!!! specially us here in the province.. we are earning less ang ordinaryong tao dito is earning 150 pesos and bubuhayin nya pa ang 7 anak nya samantalang ang mga taong binoto and pinagkatiwalaan namin ay kumikita ng milyon milyon sa laway lang.. NAKAKAHIYA PO KAYO COMPARED SA MGA BANSA NA NAPUNTAHAN KO DITO SA ATIN LANG MERON GANITONG PAG KA GANID NA MGA LIDER.. ANO PA PO ANG PURPOSE NG GOVERMENT KUNG ITO MISMO ANG SUMISIRA SA TAO.. AKALA PO NAMIN IT IS MADE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY PERO WALA PO...
Please MR AUTHOR provide us everything so that we will be enlightened...
and to our leaders MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO HINDI NYO PERA YAN SA BAYAN YAN..
AND TO MY KABABAYAN PLEASE STOP SAYING "I AM PROUD TO BE FILIPINO" BE TRUE TO YOURSELF "NAKAKAHIYA MAGING FILIPINO"
GOD BLESS US ALL!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Jo said...
Been reading the comments and I must say that this is a healthy exercise for society. One thing that is of obvious commonality amongst all blogs/comments: We are all frustrated with the present system of governance, our leaders, and societal direction.
Don't despair, we must remember that the Philippines is a young democracy. Review our history! We are a mere 62 year old democracy. What we have achieved in 62 years greatly surpasses many of the experiences of other developed nations. It has taken other countries hundreds of years to discover who they are as a people. We are in search for our identity as a people and we will weather these turbulent times.
Sadly, as we mock our system and our leaders, we must crave for a greater awareness on the degradation in the moral fibers of society. In today's world: The nation conspired to oust a previous President based on illegal gambling payoff allegations, threw him behind bars, only to set him free a few years later so that he may once again claim the Presidency because his so called "constitutional clock has stopped." A whistleblower who is a self-confessed sinner is proclaimed as a HERO since telling the truth nowadays is extraordinarily above today's accepted ethical standards. A dishonest leader that can survive through any political storm deserves to stay in office at the expense of destroying the reputations of all institutions of government (PNP, AFP, Supreme Court and most courts, DOJ, OMBUDSMAN, OSG, CONGRESS, SENATE, The Office of the President, Vice President, etc.).
What are we trying to pass on to our children as they observe these tenets of history?
This is the reason why some people, regardless of the color of flags they fly, choose to ventilate their frustations in the streets. This is not a justification for people power, only a mere appreciation of the reasons behind it.
For as long as this government, via the institutions tasked to afford them justice, will fail in delivering to the people or even a portion thereof the justice that they seek, the Filipino will forever be in search of that so called TRUTH, in the streets, over valleys, mountains, rivers and seas.
This is the beginning of CHANGE. Let's accept it, not go against it!
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Sa mga pro-GMA, di ko maintindihan kung bakit hindi niyo makita ang kawalanghiyaan ng presidente niyo. Sobrang garapal naman and pinaggagagawa niya. Sinabi niyang di siya tatakbo pero tumakbo pa din. Atat maging presidente kaya inagaw niya kay Erap ang pagka-pangulo. Fertilizer scam, Hello Garci, JPEPA, ZTE, at marami pang iba. Pilit pang pinagtatakpan, e buking na buking na.
Si Garci, tinago at pinaalis ng bansa para di makapagtestify sa senado. Di ba obstruction of justice iyon? At ngayon, kay Lozada din nila ginawa. Pinadala sa HK at dapat sa London para lang makaiwas sa senate hearing. Ayaw magtestify ni Lozada dahil alam niyang madaming malalaking tao ang madadawit. Di lang malalaking tao, pati ang unano.
Alam nating corrupt ang mga government official, pero huwag namang masyadong garapal... hinay hinay lang. Bukod tangi ang kapal ng mukha nito. Wala man lang delicadesa. Pinatalsik si Erap dahil sa plunder. E ano naman ang tawag sa pinaggagagawa niya.
Bago lang pala si blog ownerdito... obviously pakawala rin ng gobyerno. Magkano ka ba?
Wiretapping, demolition job, how low can you get? Alam mo din siguro these wiretapped conversations will not hold water in court. It will not affect the senate hearings.Maybe some people might believe you and have second thoughts about Jun Lozada's "other side", but thats not the issue here.
March 5, 2008 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...
mga anti-GMa, nabasa ninyo? bawal pala tayo dito. Ang walang magandang sasabihin kay GMA di pwede dito. Dapat panay papuri lang, tulad ng ginagawa ni tirador. Sige, magbubulagan na lang ako at isisigaw ko na PGMa for President... for life!!
Hayaan na nating magka-isa at magkubli ang mga bulag sa katotohanan dito sa blog na ito. At manuod nga pala kayo sa mga government channels, hindi yung puro channel 2 at channel 7 lang pinapanood niyo.
TANGA lnag naman ang may gusto kay GMA. Ako, kahit bayaran pa ako nang milyon-milyon (dollars, peso, whatever) ayoko pa rin kay unano. Naghihirap ang mga kababayan natin, sila nagpapakasasa.
Goodbye na dito sa Greedy Group blog. Mga anti-GMA, huwag na tayong makisali dito, sila-sila na lang. Mababaw lang naman kaligayahan nila, KJ pa tayo. Dapat kasi may registration dito bago makapag-post ng comments. Para off limits ang mga MATATALINO.
March 5, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
"i am sorry"
tga assumption ako
sorry if i disgrace my alma mater. should've made her proud by becoming a fake president
March 5, 2008 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
cerberusbites,
i will spare you. i wont stoop down to your level. and dont bother answering, coz i wont be able to read your senseless post. this is my first and last time here. you dont want me here, i could take a hint. i will respect you for that. and for standing up for xyza, and your most honorable beloved president. the only regret i had was to participate in your 'discussions'
bye, take care, God bless. may you all be enlightened.
March 5, 2008 9:32 PM
tirador said...
Meron bang marunong makipagdebate dito? Yung may utak lang pls. Meron akong kasamang taga-UP...isa! Si Xyza! Meron pa pala - yung asawa niya.
Kakaiba na nga pala ang UP ngayon, tahimik, ang pinoproblema yung kakulangan ng parking lot.
Pero nung kami, inaaway kami ni nila Prof. Cervantes, Dean Malay, Dean Beltran, Prof. Legasto, Prof. Waite, Dean Nemenzo at kung sinu-sino pa tuwing may milagrong ginagawa si Makoy, kahit gaano kaliit. Pinangungunahan nila ang mga martsa kesehodang makanyon sila ng bumbero!
Pero ako, hindi ako sumasama sa kanila, kaklase ko yata si Irene Marcos (at yung 3 bodyguards niya)sa Humanities 102. Kung gumaya lang sana sila sa akin, baka hanggang ngayon buhay pa si Makoy, baka siya pa rin ang Pangulo! Mas maayos ang buhay namin noong may Martial Law! Kaya dapat tayo ipagpilitan nating huwag umalis si Gloria, dapat nga mag-martial law din!
Kaya kayong mga taga-UP ngayon, ipagpatuloy ninyo iyan! Huwag kayong kumilos, sayang ang mga talino ninyo. Pagbutihin na lang ninyo ang pag-aaral para malaki ang kitain sa abroad. Iyan ang tama! Kalimutan na yang nasyunalismo na iyan. Pabayaan na natin kahit pa corrupt daw ang gobyerno. E ano naman sa atin, tutal makakapag-abroad naman tayo diba? Puwede naman sabihing, "I'm no longer Filipino, I'm a US citizen now".
Pero pambihira naman itong mga kakampi ko, ipinagtatanggol ko na nga ang idol at diyosa natin, kinakalaban pa ninyo ako.
Sa dami ng enumeration ko, minumura ko pa nga yung mga anti-Gloria tapos ako minumura ninyo!
Lahat ng isyu ng mga anti-GMA inisa-isa ko at sinabing mali iyon, bakit kayo magagalit sa akin? Kayo, kaya ba ninyong ipaliwanag at magtanggol laban sa mga akusasyon nila? Sige nga!
Wala namang gustong sumagot sa bawat punto ko. Di ba matatalino tayo? Sila ang mga tanga, patunayan natin.
Ulit. Alin sa napakadaming mga sinabi ko ang mali?
Pag lagi tayong talo sa debate tapos magaaway-away lang tayo maaagaw na nila ang kapangyarihan. Hindi puwede iyan. Kailangan nga ma-extend pa si Gloria beyond 2010!
Labanan natin sila sa debate. Dali!
March 5, 2008 9:58 PM
tirador said...
Wala pa rin. Hahaha.
Sheesh, wala naman talagang oppressed sa atin, xyza. Sila Jayjay Burgos, Sherilyn Cadapan, Karen Empeño lang at iyung iilang (800+ ba?) iba. At yung mga kamag-anak nila. Bakit natin sila poproblemahin, di naman natin kamag-anak ang mga iyon diba?
Masyado lang naman OA yung mga anti-Gloria. Wala namang ebidensiya, diba xyza? Peke yata yung report ni Philip Alston ng UNCHR e.
Anong pakialam ko kung pagpapatayin lahat ng mga sundalo yang mga militanteng mga iyan. Tutal mga Komunista naman silang lahat!
Tama si xyza, yung generation lang noon ang na-violate ang rights! Yang mga komunista ngayon, wala silang Rights, kasi Left sila!
Tama na rin yung hangover na iyan. The best way to avoid hangover, of course, is to stay drunk! And we will! Mabuhay si Palparan! Mabuhay si Mayuga! Mabuhay si Esperon! Mabuhay si Gloria!
Ito yung sigaw sa UP:
Kung hindi tayo kikilos, e di huwag!
Kung hindi ngayon, manigas sila!
March 5, 2008 11:46 PM
Government Should Serve the Truth
We are former senior government officials who have served the government in the administrations of Presidents Marcos, Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and Arroyo. Today we see how the institutions of government are being manipulated, weakened, and corrupted. We are committed to help rebuild and strengthen the government institutions in which we worked to serve the public good rather than personal and partisan interests.
Our people can only trust a government that governs with truth. We grant government so much power over our lives, resources and shared future because it governs with truth. When there are serious doubts about government’s adherence to truth in matters of vital public interest, no real peace or substantive unity is possible until such doubts are resolved. We cannot move on without the truth.
We are now in the midst of great disturbance because we doubt the truth behind the NBN-ZTE deal. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had belatedly cancelled the contract because of reported “anomalies.” Hence, most Filipinos reasonably conclude that corruption tainted this deal. For several months now at the hearings of the Senate investigation, we have all seen disturbing glimpses of the truth about alleged corruption that attended the NBN-ZTE deal. We are outraged by what we have seen thus far.
The President said recently: “Ang taumbayan galit sa katiwalian. Ganoon din ako, galit din ako sa katiwalian.” We affirm the first sentence. We ask that the second sentence be demonstrated in action. Having belatedly cancelled the contract to show her supposed anger with reported corruption in this deal, the President must now follow through with actions to determine the actual “anomalies” and establish responsibility for these. Otherwise, canceling the contract could be interpreted as an effort to cover up corruption rather than to pin it down and root it out.
Government should serve the truth and the President should act immediately and decisively to enable the truth to emerge.
The most credible forum thus far to establish the truth behind the NBN-ZTE controversy is the Senate investigation that has persevered in seeking facts and witnesses. The Senate is a functioning democratic institution that can help the people recognize the truth about this divisive matter. We thus call on the President to cooperate fully with the Senate and stop denigrating it so that its investigation can be completed as soon as possible. In particular, we ask the President to lead in showing government’s commitment to the truth by taking the following actions which can reasonably be done
within one week:
First, order acting Chair Romulo Neri to resume his testimony before the Senate investigation without any restrictions or limitations;
Second, order the release and delivery to the Senate of all public records pertaining to the NBN-ZTE deal, starting with the minutes of the NEDA Board meetings on the project;
Third, suspend DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Assistant Secretary Lorenzo Formoso, as the DOTC was the lead agency for this project;
Fourth, suspend DENR Secretary Lito Atienza, PNP Director General Avelino Razon, Deputy Executive Secretary Manuel Gaite, Deputy NAIA Chief Angel Atutubo, Senior Supt. Paul Mascarinas and all those involved in the attempt to prevent Senate witness Jun Lozada from testifying; and
Fifth, order a halt on any further attempts by such agencies as the DOJ, DENR, NBI and BIR to harass Senate witness Jun Lozada and those who are testifying in behalf of the truth.
The Filipino people can make democratic institutions work to fight corruption by even the most powerful people in our midst. We can do this based on the power of reason and the power of the people’s communal action. We deserve a government that governs with truth.
The President must demonstrate her commitment to the truth through these actions within one week as more and more of our people make their judgment. She must do these or be condemned as complicit with, and in fact, as being at the center of, the lies surrounding the NBN-ZTE deal.
The President must do these or the people will make their judgment and act on the basis of their conviction.
Signed by:
Florencio Abad (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Tomas Africa, (Former Administrator, National Statistics Office)
Roberto Ansaldo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Senen Bacani (Former Secretary, Department of Agriculture)
Angelito Banayo (Former Secretary, Political Affairs)
Romeo Bernardo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Emilia Boncodin (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Gerardo Bulatao (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Clifford Burkley (Former Undersecretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Sostenes Campillo, Jr. (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Isagani Cruz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Cuisia, Jr. (Former Governor, Central Bank of the Philippines)
Col. Guillermo Cunanan (Ret.) (Former General Manager, Manila International Airport)
Karina Constantino-David (Former Chair, Civil Service Commission)
Teresita Quintos Deles (Former Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Edgardo del Fonso (Former Head, Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management)
Benjamin Diokno (Former Secretary, Department of Budget and Management)
Quintin Doromal, Sr. (Former Commissioner, Presidential Commission on Good Governance)
Franklin Drilon (Former Executive Secretary)
Narcisa Escaler (Former Ambassador to the United Nations)
Evangeline Escobillo (Former Commissioner, Insurance Commission)
Jesus Estanislao (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victoria Garchitorena (Former Head, Presidential Management Staff)
Jose Luis Gascon (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Marietta Goco (Former Chair, Presidential Commission to Fight Poverty)
Jose Antonio Gonzalez (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Milwida Guevara (Former Undersecretary, Department of Finance)
Cielito Habito (Former Director-General, National Economic Development Authority)
Edilberto de Jesus Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Education)
Lina Laigo (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Ernest Leung (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Josefina Lichauco (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Narzalina Lim (Former Secretary, Department of Tourism)
Juan Miguel Luz (Former Undersecretary, Department of Education)
Jose Molano Jr. (Former Executive Director, Commission on Filipinos Overseas)
Vitaliano Nañagas (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Conrado Navarro (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Imelda Nicolas (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Vicente Paterno (Former Minister, Ministry of Trade and Industry)
Pete Prado (Former Secretary, Department of Transportation and Communications)
Cesar Purisima (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Victor Ramos (Former Secretary, Department of Environment and Natural Resources)
Amina Rasul (Former Presidential Advisor on Youth Affairs and Concurrent Chair, National Youth Commission)
Rodolfo Reyes (Former Press Secretary)
Walfrido Reyes (Former Undersecretary, Department of Tourism)
Alberto Romualdez Jr. (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Albert del Rosario (Former Ambassador to the United States of America)
Francisco del Rosario (Former Chair, Development Bank of the Philippines)
Ramon del Rosario (Former Secretary, Department of Finance)
Melito Salazar (Former Member of the Monetary Board, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)
Antonio Salvador (Former Undersecretary, Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process)
Leticia Ramos-Shahani (Former Undersecretary, Department of Foreign Affairs)
Cesar Sarino (Former Secretary, Department of Interior and Local Government)
Juan Santos (Former Secretary, Department of Trade and Industry)
Corazon Juliano-Soliman (Former Secretary, Department of Social Welfare and Development)
Hector Soliman (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agrarian Reform)
Mario Taguiwalo (Former Undersecretary, Department of Health)
Jaime Galvez Tan (Former Secretary, Department of Health)
Ricardo Tan (Former Head, Philippine Deposit Insurance Commission)
Wigberto Tañada (Former Commissioner, Bureau of Customs)
V. Bruce Tolentino (Former Undersecretary, Department of Agriculture)
Veronica Villavicencio (Former Lead Convenor, National Anti-Poverty Commission)
Deogracias Vistan (Former President, Land Bank of the Philippines)
March 6, 2008 12:15 AM
Anonymous said...
A Prophetic Call for Societal Change and Church Unity
We in the Sisters’ Association in Mindanao, an aggrupation of some 360 nuns coming from more than 40 congregations in Mindanao, renew our call for Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to step down.
We have been unequivocal in the past. We continue to be unwavering in spite of the perceptible absence of a uniting spirit within the Church. But we are inspired by the Church as people of God where the Spirit permeates to bring about righteousness and morality in governance and in our communal life.
Our assertions in previous statements remain true until today, in the light of the ZTE-National Broadband Network scandal. We stand by our belief that “President Arroyo has committed the grave sin of stealing her legitimacy from the people. She has committed a serious immoral act in governance| like the rulers of old whom God had banished from their thrones for violating covenants with His people to uphold truth, justice, and peace.”
As soon as Mrs. Arroyo betrayed the 10-point Agenda she signed with people’s organizations when People Power 2 catapulted her to power, she had broken her covenant with her people and had already lost the moral ascendancy to govern. When she refused to heed the people’s clamor for her resignation following the “Hello Garci” controversy, she has morphed into a more vicious sinner. With the ZTE-NBN deal and the serial corruption dipped into by the First Family, and the various conspiracies to suppress the truth, Mrs. Arroyo has become a recidivist sinner. ‘Evil’ has been her ultimate transformation as illegitimacy, corruption, idolatry of foreign powers and globalization, and tyranny have merged and is now responsible for the malevolent spirit of poverty, hunger, extrajudicial killings and human rights violations, and serious moral bankruptcy that has engulfed our nation.
The rottenness starts from the core of our country’s leadership.
There is no equivocation in our minds and in our hearts, therefore, that Mrs. Arroyo should be removed from power NOW. We lose our own self-dignity and righteousness if we tolerate Mrs. Arroyo’s sins until she finishes her term in 2010. We waver in our faithfulness to God if we allow the regime to further commit sins that are a direct affront to the Gospel values of truth, justice, and peace.
We also assert that the brokenness of the Church as People of God has been brought about by this ‘evil’ in the helm of our country’s leadership. We and our people are yearning for Church unity anchored on the upholding of truth and justice so that reconciliation and national renewal can begin. Systemic corruption has erupted in almost all facets of our society like wounds and sores on the Body of Christ. It is time for social renewal, starting with a cleansing from the top coupled with a conversion in the culture of corruption that visits our daily individual and communal life.
Aware that the Church hierarchy can not as yet make a definitive call for Mrs. Arroyo’s ouster or voluntary relinquishing of power, we nevertheless take the cue from the CBCP statements that empower the laity to assert their sovereign will and take “communal action.” “Citizens are not obligated in conscience to follow the prescriptions of civil authorities if their precepts are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or to the teachings of the Gospel” (#399 Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).
There is HOPE and LIFE after Mrs. Arroyo. The continuing history of our salvation gains valuable learnings from our struggle to remove her from power. It provides us a momentous opportunity to put forward a people-centered program for national renewal.
It is our prophetic imperative as religious, and doubly so as women disciples, who are called to follow Jesus the Good Shepherd, to walk abreast with our people in calling for an end to a morally bankrupt regime.
We reaffirm our pledge to “support our people by joining them in prayer and in action until Mrs. Arroyo is booted out from office.” We take inspiration from Mary who has shown us the way to be truly prophetic and faithful to God. We sing her Magnificat to proclaim the message: “My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit exults in God my savior| He has shown the strength of His arm, He has scattered the proud in their conceit.” (Luke 1:46-48)
For reference:
Sr. Elsa Compuesto, MSM
Executive Secretary, SAMIN
March 6, 2008 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...
tsk tsk tsk
such a pity
you are all losers
magsama-sama kayo sa baluktot ninyong pananaw
anong evidence in court pinagsasabi niyo? wala ngang justice, lahat niluluto
comedy of lies na nga, di niyo pa rin makita
sabihin niyong objective ang mga pro gma, lokohin niyo lelong niyo, lokohin niyo mga sarili niyo
PWEH!
March 6, 2008 5:59 AM
Spratlys covered-up too said...
@xyza:
"BAKIT HINDI MO YAN SABIHIN KAY LOZADA????"
- Dear, meron na bang tanong na hindi sinagot si Lozada? May pagkukubli ba siyang ginagawa katulad nina Mrs. Pidal, et. al.? Kung meron man, ito ay patungkol sa involvement ni GMA sa NBN-ZTE, dahil ayaw niyang masira ng tuluyan ang friendship nila ni Neri, aside from the fact na pwede siyang ipapatay ni GMA (muntik na ngang mangyari ito sa Dasmariñas, Cavite eh). Yes, GMA is a murderer; google "Ofelia Rodriguez fertilizer scam," read all the articles, and you'll know how she usually does it.
"I COMMEND the AUTHOR OF PATRIOTS4TRUTH for BACKING UP his truth WITH EVIDENCES... DON'T EXPECT to see EVIDENCES AGAINST FG, GMA etc HERE..."
- ang ebidensiyang hinihingi mo ay matagal ng ikinukubli sa likod ng malisyosong pag-gamit ng executive privilege at makikita sa mga dokumentong ayaw nilang isuko sa Senado. Mag-isip-isip ka nga.
"Subukan mo minsan manood sa NBN4 dahil ang interviews dun HINDI EDITED to favor the administration..."
- Dear, hindi ako gago para magpagago pa sa mga rugby boys and girl (Lorelei Fajardo) ng Malacañang; matagal ko nang pinapakinggan ang kanilang mga pahayag sa balita, at napagtanto kong HIGH sila sa RUGBY kaya out of touch sila sa reality :p (at malisyoso para sabihin mong 'slanted' ang ABS-CBN at GMA7 sa pagbabalita nito, dahil binibigyan nila ang magkabilang sides ng pagkakataong makapagsalita). Nag-iisip kase ako, at kahit na ibigay ko pa ang full benefit of the doubt sa mga taga-ehekutibo, litaw na litaw palagi ang discrepancies sa kanilang mga pahayag na pabago-bago pa. Sinong ginagago n'yo?? KAYO-KAYO NA LANG MAG-GAGUHAN SA SARILI N'YO, h'wag n'yo ng isali ang taong-bayan.
March 6, 2008 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...
ADB: RP growth among most inequitable in region
by Anthony Ian Cruz
The Arroyo administration’s much-touted “highest economic growth” is “among the most inequitable” in the region, according to a new report of the Asian Development Bank which also said government corruption continues to hamper development in the country.
In an 83-page study “Philippines: Critical Development Constraints,” the ADB downplayed Malacañang’s declarations of an economic take-off, saying that “while growth has picked up in recent years, with the economy in 2007 posting its highest growth of 7.3 percent in the last three decades, both public and private investment remain sluggish and their share in gross domestic product has continued to decline, raising the question of whether the current economic momentum can be sustained.”
“In per capita terms, the growth was even less favorable,” said the ADB, pointing out from 1961-2006, “per capita gross GDP grew 1.4 percent annually compared with 3.6 percent in Indonesia, 3.9 percent in Malaysia, and 4.5 percent in Thailand.”
The low per capita GDP growth has resulted in a slow pace of poverty reduction and high income inequality.
The government yesterday reported that 26.9 percent of families in 2006 were below the official poverty threshold.
“In 2003, about 25 percent of Philippine families and 30 percent of the population were deemed poor and, in 2006, the Gini coefficient of per capita income - at slightly over 0.45 - was among the highest in Southeast Asia,” said the ADB.
The Gini coefficient measures inequality of income or wealth distribution.
The ADB study also said corruption and governance issues are among the biggest stumbling blocks to attaining long-term and equitable growth.
“Poor performance on key governance aspects, in particular, control of corruption and political stability, has eroded investor confidence,” the ADB said citing several international studies and surveys suggesting that “the Philippines’ ranking in the control of corruption and maintaining political stability has worsened.”
According to the ADB, “the Philippines has scored lowest among countries with similar per capita GDP levels on control of corruption and political stability since 1996, and on rule of law since 2002.”
STABILITY SLIPPING
The country has also “lost momentum in controlling corruption, and has allowed Vietnam and fairly soon, Indonesia, to pass it. In the case of political stability, the Philippines has slipped, particularly relative to the 1998 level,” the ADB added.
The ADB explained that political problems comparable to the 1980s, which caused a decline in foreign direct investments, have not disappeared “in sharp contrast to surges in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand” that have cleaned up their governments and instituted reform measures.
The report said “instability was manifested in a number of political events in 2000, 2005-2006, and 2007 that sorely tested constitutional processes.”
“The perception of worsening corruption was found to partly explain the low investment rate in the Philippines. Poor governance was also found to translate into higher lending rates, reflective of premiums for worsening corruption, political instability, and internal conflict, acting as disincentives to private investment. A key reason for weak revenue generation - leakages in revenue collection - is rooted in persistent corruption and patronage problems,” said the report.
The report argues that governance concerns underline other critical constraints. For instance, corruption undermines tax collection and reduces resources for infrastructure development.
“Similarly, the political instability hinders investment and growth and reduces the tax base,” said the report.
TIGHT FISCAL SITUATION
The country’s fiscal situation also “remains tight despite the government making good progress to reduce deficits and aims to balance its budget in 2008.”
“It said that much of the reduction in fiscal deficit has been driven by deep cuts in spending on social and economic services and sale of government assets,” said the report.
The ADB also noted “declining public and private sector investments in infrastructure” which has led to “inadequate and poor infrastructure and bottlenecks” that raised the cost of doing business in the country and eroded the competitiveness and attractiveness to both foreign and local investors.
“Per capita paved road length for the Philippines is roughly one-sixth that of Thailand and one-fourth of Malaysia,” said the report.
Poor infrastructure and weak investor confidence have led to weak flows of foreign direct investment (FDI), the report said pointing out that the Philippines only got FDIs worth $1.1 billion in 2001-2006, compared with $6.1 billion for Thailand and $3.9 billion for Malaysia.
It said the country’s lower FDI “partly explains a smaller and narrower industrial base compared to its neighbors whose share of manufacturing in GDP is 34.8 percent in Thailand and 30.6 percent in Malaysia. The Philippines’ record is 23.5 percent.
IMPACT ON POVERTY
In a statement, ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said “targeting and removal of the most critical constraints will lead to the highest returns for the country. It will spur investment, which in turn will lead to sustained and high growth and create more productive employment opportunities.”
“This would ensure that the fruits of development are shared by all,” Ali added.
The United Opposition said government figures showing an increase in the number of poor Filipinos is the best argument for President Arroyo to resign.
“Her misplaced economic policies and the massive corruption have led us to this situation,” said UNO president and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.
He said Arroyo has consistently justified her stay in power by citing the supposed gains in the economy under her term.
“Now that government figures show that she has failed to improve the lot of million of Filipinos, and has in fact increased the number of poor Filipinos, it’s time for her to go,” he said.
The National Statistical Coordinating Board said Tuesday that poverty incidence in the Philippines worsened to 32.9 percent in 2006 from 30 percent in 2003.
ONLY ARROYO ALLIES
Binay said the only ones benefiting are Arroyo cronies and business associates, and political allies “who make millions in kickbacks and juicy government contracts.”
Sen. Mar Roxas bewailed the rising incidence of poverty from 2003 to 2006 as reported by the NSCB.
He said this only shows government is busy covering up anomalies and neglecting its duty to provide relief for the public in the midst of rising prices of oil and other commodities.
The NCSB figures, he said, clearly showed a disconnect between the financial markets and the grassroots economy, and a widening gap between rich and poor. From 4 million poor families in 2003, this went up to 4.7 million in 2006.
The National Economic and Development Authority on Wednesday said poverty worsened because of increasing prices of commodities and the insufficient income of the citizenry, with “external factors” like high oil prices playing a role.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Phil. Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ)
by: Isa Lorenzo
February 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
11 ODA Projects Put On Hold
AMID the public uproar generated by the Senate investigation on the scrapped national broadband network (NBN) project, the government has put on hold 11 official development assistance (ODA) projects worth around P104.34 billion that it intends to fund.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the suspension of the said projects that have yet to be bound by formal agreements. “Unless the project has been consummated, meaning it’s been signed, the general rule is we will fund these projects with locally generated funds,” said press secretary Ignacio Bunye.
The projects include the controversial Cyber Education Project, extensions of the Light Rail Transit, and the South Rail Project, which was allegedly overpriced by $70 million, according to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., key witness in the Senate’s probe on the NBN deal.
ODA PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED LOCALLY
-New Communications, Navigation, Surveillance,and Air Traffic Management Systems Development Project P2.64 B
-Regionalization of Mental Health Services P1.32 B
-Redevelopment of Tacloban Airport (Trunkline)Development Project P1.12 B
-Construction of Elementary and Secondary Classrooms in Acute Shortage P45.67 M
-Cyber Education Project P26.48 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Extension $683 M
-Mainline South Railway Project P15.30 B
-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2 Extension P10.33 B
-LRT Line 1 North Extension P5.98 B
-Bataan Manila Pipeline Project $180 M
-Angat Water Utilization and Aqueduct Improvement Project P5.75 B
However, the list does not include 21 projects that the National Economic and Development Authority says has cost the government an additional P36.8 billion due to delays in their implementation. The price of China-funded Banaoang Pump Irrigation Project alone has been hiked by over 92 percent, from P1.3 billion to P2.54 billion.
See the list of all foreign-assisted projects with cost overruns as of July 2007.
A three-part PCIJ investigative report on ODA last week found that the sharp surge in assistance in recent years has not only sparked scandals and allegations of corruption, but threatens to drag Filipino taxpayers deeper in debt.
The avalanche of ODA loans, particularly from China, has worried economists who note how the government is becoming lax in project evaluation because the loans are supply-driven. Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno cited the Cyber Education Project as one of doubtful social or economic value as it assigns more weight to information technology than to the training of teachers, which studies have shown to have a greater impact in improving student performance.
The PCIJ report pointed out that NEDA and its project evaluation process have been weakened and violated by pressure from lobbyists and political sponsors of some projects. Further, it showed how the absence of caps on bids, tied loans and conditionalities of lenders have favored foreign contractors and triggered cost overruns and project delays.
As a result, seven in 10 of the ODA projects that the PCIJ reviewed have failed to deliver the promised economic benefits, and now posit to exacerbate the nation’s debt burden.
For this reason, groups led by the Freedom from Debt Coalition are urging an independent audit of loan-funded government contracts.
“A government that places (the) highest priority on debt service and fully dependent on heavy borrowings is even more vulnerable to wrong priorities, fixated with chasing after ‘foreign-assisted’ projects, and driven by external funding,” the groups said in a statement.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Far Eastern Economic Review
January/February 2008
Manila’s Bungle in The South China Sea
by Barry Wain
When Vietnamese students gathered outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi last December to protest against China’s perceived bullying over disputed territory in the South China Sea, it signaled Hanoi’s intention to turn up the heat a bit.
And Beijing reacted in kind; instead of downplaying the incident, a foreign ministry spokesman complained, “China has indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands.” The bluster on both sides, while just a blip in this long-running feud, is a timely reminder that the South China Sea remains one of the region’s flashpoints. What most observers don’t realize is that in the last few years, regional cooperative efforts to coax Beijing into a more measured stance have been set back by one of the rival claimants to the islands.
Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s hurried trip to China in late 2004 produced a major surprise. Among the raft of agreements ceremoniously signed by the two countries was one providing for their national oil companies to conduct a joint seismic study in the contentious South China Sea, a prospect that caused consternation in parts of Southeast Asia. Within six months, however, Vietnam, the harshest critic, dropped its objections and joined the venture, which went ahead on a tripartite basis and shrouded in secrecy.
In the absence of any progress towards solving complex territorial and jurisdictional disputes in the South China Sea, the concept of joint development is resonating stronger than ever. The idea is fairly simple: Shelve sovereignty claims temporarily and establish joint development zones to share the ocean’s fish, hydrocarbon and other resources. The agreement between China, the Philippines and Vietnam, three of the six governments that have conflicting claims, is seen as a step in the right direction and a possible model for the future.
But as details of the undertaking emerge, it is beginning to look like anything but the way to go. For a start, the Philippine government has broken ranks with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which was dealing with China as a bloc on the South China Sea issue. The Philippines also has made breathtaking concessions in agreeing to the area for study, including parts of its own continental shelf not even claimed by China and Vietnam. Through its actions, Manila has given a certain legitimacy to China’s legally spurious “historic claim” to most of the South China Sea.
Although the South China Sea has been relatively peaceful for the past decade, it remains one of East Asia’s potential flashpoints. The Paracel Islands in the northwest are claimed by China and Vietnam, while the Spratly Islands in the south are claimed in part or entirety by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. All but Brunei, whose claim is limited to an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf that overlap those of its neighbors, man military garrisons in the scattered islets, cays and rocks of the Spratlys.
After extensive Chinese structures were discovered in 1995 on Mischief Reef, on the Philippine continental shelf and well within the Philippine 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, Asean persuaded Beijing to drop its resistance to the “internationalization” of the South China Sea issue. Instead of insisting on only bilateral discussions with claimant states, China agreed to deal with Asean as a group on the matter. Rodolfo Severino, a former secretary-general of Asean, has lauded “Asean solidarity and cooperation in a matter of vital security concern.”
Asean and China, however, failed in their attempt to negotiate a code of conduct. In the “Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” signed in 2002, they pledged to settle territorial disagreements peacefully and to exercise restraint in activities that could spark conflict. But the declaration is far from watertight. A political statement, not a legally binding treaty, it doesn’t specify the geographical scope and is, at best, an interim step.
Since the issuance of the declaration, a tenuous stability has descended on the South China Sea. With Asean countries benefiting from China’s booming economy, boosted by a free-trade agreement, Southeast Asian political leaders are happy to forget about this particular set of problems that once bedeviled their relations with Beijing. Yet none of the multifaceted disputes has been resolved, and no mechanism exists to prevent or manage conflicts. With no plans to discuss even the sovereignty of contested islands, claimants now accept that it will be decades, perhaps generations, before the tangled claims are reconciled.
Recent incidents and skirmishes are a sharp reminder of how dangerous the situation remains. In the middle of last year, Chinese naval vessels fired on Vietnamese fishing boats near the Paracels, killing one fisherman and wounding six others, while British giant BP halted work associated with a gas pipeline off the Vietnamese coast after a warning by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In the past few months, Beijing and Hanoi have traded denunciations as the Chinese, in particular, maneuver to reinforce territorial claims. Vietnam protested when China conducted a large naval exercise around the Paracels in November.
China’s decision in December to create an administrative center on Hainan to manage the Paracels, Spratlys and another archipelago, though symbolic, was regarded as particularly provocative by Hanoi. The Vietnamese authorities facilitated demonstrations outside the Chinese diplomatic missions in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to make known their displeasure.
Friction can be expected to increase as the demand for energy by China and dynamic Southeast Asian economies rises and they intensify the search for oil and gas. While hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea are unproven, the belief that huge deposits exist keeps interest intense. As world oil prices hit record levels, the discovery of commercially viable reserves would raise tensions and “transform security circumstances” in the Spratlys, according to Ralf Emmers, an associate professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
President Arroyo’s agreement with China for a joint seismic study was controversial in several respects. By not consulting other Asean members beforehand, the Philippines abandoned the collective stance that was key to the group’s success with China over the South China Sea. Ironically, it was Manila that first sought a united front and rallied Asean to confront China over its intrusion into Mischief Reef a decade earlier. Sold the idea by politicians with business links who have other deals going with the Chinese, Ms. Arroyo did not seek the views of her foreign ministry, Philippines officials say. By the time the foreign ministry heard about it and objected, it was too late, the officials say.
Philippine diplomats might have been able to warn her that while joint development has been successfully implemented elsewhere, Beijing’s understanding of the concept is peculiarly Chinese. The only location that China is known to have nominated for joint development is a patch off the southern coast of Vietnam called Vanguard Bank, which is in Vietnamese waters where China has “no possibly valid claim,” as a study by a U.S. law firm put it. Beijing’s suggestion in the 1990s that it and Hanoi jointly develop Vanguard Bank was considered doubly outrageous because China insisted that it alone must retain sovereignty of the area. Also of no small consideration was the fact that such a bilateral deal would split Southeast Asia.
The hollowness of China’s policy of joint development, loudly proclaimed for nearly 20 years, was confirmed long ago by Hasjim Djalal, Indonesia’s foremost authority on maritime affairs, when he headed a series of workshops on the South China Sea. Mr. Hasjim set out to test the concept of joint development, taking several years to identify an area in which each country would both relinquish and gain something in terms of its claims. In 1996, he designated an area of some thousands of square kilometers, amounting to a small opening in the middle of the South China Sea, which cut across the Spratlys and went beyond them. Joint development, unspecified, was to take place in the “hole,” with no participant having to formally abandon its claims. Beijing alone refused to further explore the doughnut proposal, as it was dubbed, complaining that the intended zone was in the area China claimed. Of course it was, that being the essence of the plan, without which it was difficult to imagine having joint development.
China’s bottom line on joint development at that time: What is mine is mine and what is yours is ours.
Beijing and Manila did not make public the text of their “Agreement for Seismic Undertaking for Certain Areas in the South China Sea By and Between China National Offshore Oil Corporation and Philippine National Oil Company.” After the agreement was signed on Sept. 1, 2004, the Philippine government said the joint seismic study, lasting three years, would “gather and process data on stratigraphy, tectonics and structural fabric of the subsurface of the area.”
Although the government said the undertaking “has no reference to petroleum exploration and production,” it was obvious that the survey was intended precisely to gauge prospects for oil and gas exploration and production. Nobody could think of an alternative explanation for seismic work, especially in the wake of year-earlier press reports that CNOOC and PNOC had signed a letter of intent to begin the search for oil and gas.
Vietnam immediately voiced concern, declaring that the agreement, concluded without consultation, was not in keeping with the spirit of the 2002 Asean-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties. Hanoi “requested” Beijing and Manila disclose what they had agreed and called on other Asean members to join Vietnam in “strictly implementing” the declaration. After what Hanoi National University law lecturer Nguyen Hong Thao calls “six months of Vietnamese active struggle, supported by other countries,” state-owned PetroVietnam joined the China-Philippine pact.
Vietnam’s inclusion in the modified and renamed “Tripartite Agreement for Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking in the Agreement Area in the South China Sea,” signed on March 14, 2005, was scarcely a victory for consensus-building and voluntary restraint. The Philippines, militarily weak and lagging economically, had opted for Chinese favors at the expense of Asean political solidarity. In danger of being cut out, the Vietnamese joined, “seeking to make the best out of an unsatisfactory situation,” as Mr. Severino puts it. The transparency that Hanoi had demanded was still missing, with even the site of the proposed seismic study concealed.
Now that the location is known, the details having leaked into research circles, the reasons for wanting to keep it under wraps are apparent: “Some would say it was a sell-out on the part of the Philippines,” says Mark Valencia, an independent expert on the South China Sea. The designated zone, a vast swathe of ocean off Palawan in the southern Philippines, thrusts into the Spratlys and abuts Malampaya, a Philippine producing gas field. About one-sixth of the entire area, closest to the Philippine coastline, is outside the claims by China and Vietnam. Says Mr. Valencia: “Presumably for higher political purposes, the Philippines agreed to these joint surveys that include parts of its legal continental shelf that China and Vietnam don’t even claim.”
Worse, by agreeing to joint surveying, Manila implicitly considers the Chinese and Vietnamese claims to have a legitimate basis, he says. In the case of Beijing, this has serious implications, since the broken, U-shaped line on Chinese maps, claiming almost the entire South China Sea on “historic” grounds, is nonsensical in international law. (Theoretically, Beijing might stake an alternative claim based on an exclusive economic zone and continental shelf from nearby islets that it claims, but they would be restricted by similar claims by rivals.) Manila’s support for the Chinese “historic claim,” however indirect, weakens the positions of fellow Asean members Malaysia and Brunei, whose claimed areas are partly within the Chinese U-shaped line. It is a stunning about-face by Manila, which kicked up an international fuss in 1995 when the Chinese moved onto the submerged Mischief Reef on the same underlying “historic claim” to the area.
Some commentators have hailed the tripartite seismic survey as a landmark event, echoing the upbeat interpretation put on it by the Philippines and China. The parties insist it is a strictly commercial venture by their national oil companies that does not change the sovereignty claims of the three countries involved. Ms. Arroyo calls it an “historic diplomatic breakthrough for peace and security in the region.” But that assessment is, at the very least, premature.
Not only do the details of the three-way agreement remain unknown, but almost nothing has been disclosed about progress on the seismic study, which should be completed in the next few months. Much will depend on the results and what the parties do next. Already, according to regional officials, China has approached Malaysia and Brunei separately, suggesting similar joint ventures. If it is confirmed that China has split Asean and the Southeast Asian claimants and won the right to jointly develop areas of the South China Sea it covets only by virtue of its “historic claim,” Beijing will have scored a significant victory.
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Mr. Wain, writer-in-residence at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, is a former editor of The Wall Street Journal Asia.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...
Time To Face The Facts
by Peter Wallace
(founder: Wallace Business Forum)
When you make a decision, if it’s to be the best one possible, you need as many facts as possible, and you need those facts to be reliable. The interpretation of them must be correct.
So if you’re told the economy, as measured by gross domestic product grew its fastest in 31 years at 7.3 percent, you’d naturally assume you’ve been doing the right things. And so should continue with the policies and actions you’ve effected in the past.
But if you were told that GDP really only grew about 4.8 percent, and that family spending declined, and that there were more people who went hungry during the past three years than in any period during the past 10 years, you’d think much differently. You’d realize that there would appear to still be faults in the system that need correction. And look into what those might be.
Well in 2007, the economy, had exports and imports grown as they did during the past 20 years (a healthy 5.5 percent p.a. for exports, 5 percent for imports with almost a third of purchases abroad being capital equipment), would only have grown at about 4.8 percent. What created the 7.3 percent wasn’t a dramatic improvement in the factors that contribute to growth but, instead, a worrying massive decline in imports.
Imports were 6.6 percent less in 2007 than they were in 2006. Now in a healthy, growing economy that’s a most unlikely event. Within that oil imports fell 5.6 percent. Now that’s just impossible. You can have some slowing if there’s a shift to alternative fuels, but in 2007 there wasn’t to any significant degree. Oil imports should be growing close to GDP growth, a bit slower but close, and not showing a contradicting trend as it did in 2007. So you’re left with only one logical alternative: smuggling increased substantially.
That’s probably the case for other imports too. Although imports of capital equipment are harder to smuggle, so the figure there is probably reasonably reflective of what actually happened. And what actually happened there was they were almost flattened out—that doesn’t indicate strong investor confidence in the country, but rather, a worrying lack of the interest that should be there. And is elsewhere in Asia.
Capital equipment imports, which indicates growth of business and new business being created, declined by about 14 percent in volume terms. If I were the President (God forbid) I’d be asking why, and what should we do to revive investor interest.
This concern is reinforced by the trend in foreign direct investments. There’s been an improvement in the net inflow of FDI as recorded by the central bank since 2004, reaching $2.5 billion last year, but that’s only a 7-percent growth from 2006. This is not particularly inspiring. It isn’t much higher than it was during the past two administrations, while neighboring countries Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam have been getting 2-3 times the amount.
But back to GDP: GDP is measured by adding consumption plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports. Now in Ramos’s time, before the Asian financial crisis, the first three averaged 5.3 percent, exports were 4.4 percent and imports 6 percent to give a GDP growth of 3.7 percent.
In 2007 the first three were only 3 percent. That means the domestic economy that we live in was not doing as well as it was in the early ’90s. Exports contributed a miserable 1.5 percentage points, in part because the “strong” peso had made many businesses uncompetitive (many closed). So who wants a “strong” peso? But the damning statistic is that imports fell 5.4 percent. Now, if you can remember your school boy/girl maths you’ll remember that a double negative becomes a plus. So the imports that should have been subtracted from GDP were actually added. It’s a quirk in the system. Hence that fall in imports actually ADDED 2.8 percentage points to GDP.
So because we had less imports, GDP looked good. From where I sit, that does not indicate a strong, growing economy, the best in 31 years. It indicates one where there’s probably a lot of skullduggery going on, and I’d better find out what it is—and fix it.
This belief is reinforced by the FACT that average family income in real (inflation-adjusted) terms fell between 2003 and 2006 by 2.7 percent. Real family expenditure also fell at almost the same miniscule pace. Total expenditure, however, as a result of population growth, grew by a miniscule 3 percent between 2003 and 2006, strangely much lower than the almost 20 percent growth in personal consumption expenditure (PCE) item in the GDP account. Interestingly, the growth in family expenditures was higher than the growth in PCE prior to the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
Dr. Felipe Medalla who used to head the National Economic and Development Authority—so he knows what he’s talking about—believes the 2007 GDP numbers don’t seem to be correct. They show an inconsistent trend with other indicators. For example, family expenditure was not growing as fast as the PCE of GDP as it should have been. While a survey conducted by the census office indicated that there was a declining volume of production in manufacturing yet GDP accounts showed a rising manufacturing value added.
You add to this the concern expressed by Standard and Poors that revenue generation (taxes) is fragile and I’d start to worry. Tax collection last year was only 14 percent of GDP; under Ramos it was 16.3 percent. Elsewhere in Asia it averaged 16 percent. The big tax cheats have not been caught and prosecuted; they still violate the system with impunity.
I’ve said this a hundred times (OK, a slight exaggeration), but until President Arroyo prosecutes and jails a couple of “big fish” seen to be close to her, tax revenues will never improve. Even the conservative, prudent World Bank has said so. She can’t even jail an opposition “big fish.” Erap was found guilty of plunder, a capital offence, and yet she pardoned him. He’s strutting around town now convincing people he’s innocent, and he’s being successful at it.
We have an economy today that is skewed to favor a few. The growth is not widespread and is not reaching the bulk of the people. It is an economy that is losing its middle class (it shrank in 2007). One could say that it takes time to reduce the huge inequality that exists, or that the momentum toward that is there. But after six and a half years, surely there should have been some improvement, not a worsening.
We should be seeing better results by now. Instead, more people are poor today, and more people don’t have jobs than was the case in 2000. Percentages fool you, percentages are irrelevant when you talk people. In 2000 there were 11.2 percent unemployed according to government statistics. In 2006 there were only 7 percent—but they changed the definition. Using the old definition (only available up to 2006) there’s been no improvement, its still 11 percent. But there were 7.7 million more people eligible for work, so the 11.2 percent in 2000 was 3.5 million people and the 11 percent in 2006 was 4.1 million people. That’s 600,000 more people and that doesn’t even include the eight million who reluctantly deserted their families and fled overseas seeking a job that wasn’t available here. But it does include lowly paid, even unpaid, agricultural workers working on the family farm. I don’t consider that satisfactory employment.
When you know this, you focus much more closely on what’s needed to create jobs. What’s needed, and it’s so obvious, is to create an environment that makes investing here irresistible. The investment numbers say this is not the case, the number of unemployed says this is not the case.
So sitting back and relaxing because success has been achieved is very much the wrong thing to be doing.
The President needs to be told the real situation—not a sugarcoated version that makes her feel good but doesn’t solve the problem.
It’s time to face facts.
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
These anti-Gloria bastards are a menace! Watch this video.
March 6, 2008 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Q: What was the most expensive speech in the world?
A: Eraps 1 min stupidity at ayala last Februay 25 costing 10 Million.
Q: What is the world's most expensive road?
A: The Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard, 2.2 kilometers long at half a billion pesos per kilometer, is now known as the most expensive boulevard in the UNIVERSE.
the trouble with you people is that you refuse to see what you dont want to see
Anonymous said...
Q: What's the most expensive railroad in the world?
A: Northrail!
Australia has just constructed a double-track (two-way) heavy gauge railway at the cost of less than US$450,ooo per kilometer.
RP's single-track medium gauge Northrail, using China's obsolete design, costs more than US$15Million per kilometer.
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
March 6, 2008 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Nandito pala ang mga Pay-triots...
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Paytriots for Self-Proclaimed Truths
March 6, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Ramdam na ramdam mo ba ang kaunlaran?
YES!!
SINCE her election to the Senate, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's net worth has increased more than tenfold, or from P6.7 million in 1992 to P72 million in2002, according to statements of assets and liabilities she has been filing with the Ombudsman.
The bulk of the increase, averaging an annual 29 percent, presumably came from the interest earnings in her bank deposits, the sale and purchase of real property and stocks, and property inheritance.
The steepest increase in her net worth was recorded in 1997, a year before she ran for vice president, rising by 71 percent from the previous year's P15.3 million to P26.1 million.
It was the year her cash in hand and in the banks rose fourfold from P704,540 to P2.86 million, she bought an agricultural lot in Nasugbu, Batangas, and she inherited property from her father, former President Diosdado Macapagal, valued at P5.4 million. It was also the year she bought a Kia Besta van for which she took out a bank loan of P341,434.
Arroyo also reported sharp increases in her net worth in 1998, the year she was elected vice president, and in 2000, a year before she assumed the presidency. Her net worth rose by P10 million (42 percent), from P26.1 million to P37 million, in 1998 and by P18 million (48 percent), from P39.5 million to P58.3 million, in 2000.
Source: Arroyo's Statements of Assets and Liabilities
*Statement for 1992 failed to include real property in computation for total assets. If computed properly, total assets should read P8,132,497.00 and networth P7,888,561.00. Networth increase from 1992 to 1993 should therefore be P1,158,368.00 or 6 percent.
In 1998, the increase was apparently the outcome of her increased investments in stocks (P6 million to P11 million), jewelry (from P1.2 million to P2 million), and law books (from 1.5 million to P2.5 million). That year, she acquired a Toyota Revo van and a Mitsubishi GLI sedan through financing.
Arroyo's cash in hand and on bank jumped from a mere P3.8 million to P36.3 million in 2000 following what appeared to be the sale of her condominium unit in Ayala, Makati. The unit, with a declared current market fair value of P13.4 million in 1980, was purchased in 1980 for P619,825. She also appeared to have disposed of a substantial volume of her stocks that year, causing the value to drop to P7.5 million from the previous year's P14 million.
The condominium unit was among the five pieces of property Arroyo had declared in her SAL when she was elected to the Senate in 1992. The others were a house and lot in Baguio City bought in 1977, an island in Cagayan bought in 1970, a residential lot in Antipolo bought in 1986, a residential lot in Las Piñas in 1989.
In 1995, the island in Cagayan and Las Las Piñas were dropped from her SAL. In their stead were a commercial lot she bought in Tayabas, Quezon for P1 million and an agricultural lot in Bulacan for P1.17 million. She bought her Nasugbu property two years later.
There were quite a few notable changes in Arroyo's declaration when she became president in 2001. One, she stopped listing First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike" Arroyo's businesses like LTA Inc. and LTA Realty in Makati City and JJ Agricultural Corp. in Bacolod City in her financial statements. Two, she disposed of her race horses which she acquired on various dates for P600,000. Third, she identified more relatives in government positions than she did when she was senator and vice president.
Arroyo had declared her husband's three companies in her statements for 1993, year after she was elected senator. Her declaration for 1999 also listed her husband's law firm, the Arroyo Law Office, and his directorship in Reynolds Philippines Corp., from which he resigned on March 6, 2000.
Also in 1993, Arroyo declared their joint interests in the family-run DM Press, as well as her husband's ownership of Aviatica Management and Travel Corp., a travel agency based in Makati. Interestingly, she also listed the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo Scholarship Foundation Inc. she and her husband established that year.
Coincidentally, the Lualhati Foundation, a charitable organization identified with the First Couple, was founded that same year by members of the Makati Rotary Club to which First Gentleman Jose Miguel "Mike'' Arroyo belongs.
Neither President Arroyo nor her husband are members or officers of the foundation, although the foundation has received donations for Arroyo's projects, including P8 million from Mark Jimenez in 1999, at the time a business associate of Estrada who was wanted in the U.S. on fraud and tax evasion charges.
In 2001, Jimenez was elected to the House of Representatives, representing Manila's sixth district, but was subsequently extradited to the U.S.
While race horses no longer appeared in Arroyo's declarations as president, she reported the purchase of a Toyota Lexus in 2001, which is covered by a P3.5 million loan from the Export and Industry Bank.
Arroyo's husband and their son, Pampanga Vice Gov, Juan Miguel "Mikey" Arroyo, are known for their love for horses, according to an Aug. 18 article that appeared in the fortnightly Newsbreak.
Newsbreak said Mikey owns a horse farm, Franchino Farms Inc., which has no less than 20 local and imported race horses in its stables.
When she was senator, Arroyo had listed the following relatives as holding government positions: her half-sister Cielo M. Salgado, Pampanga vice governor; cousin Ramon Guico Jr., mayor of Binalonan, Pangasinan; and cousin Edith Demetria, member of the Pangasinan sangguniang panlawiwigan.
When she was vice president, her list comprised solely of her brother, Arthur Macapagal, who was with the Clark Development Corp.
During her two years in Malacañang, she identified the following relatives as being in government: her son Mikey, Pampanga vice governor; half-sister Cielo Salgado, Philippine National Bank board director; cousin Erlinda M. B. de Leon, special assistant to the President (confidential secretary); cousin Demetrio P. Macapagal, Quezon City regional trial court judge; cousin-in-law Carlos L. De Leon, Supreme Court assistant court administrator; and cousin-in-law Anthony A. Cortex, deputy executive director of the Garments and Textile Export Board.
*figures are her 'declared' SAL
ibang klase si tirador. idol.
walang makasangga. sopla lahat. taranta ang mga bayaran kasi ngayon lang nakatagpo ng ganitong klaseng mga argumento. ang umaangal yung mga kakampi ni gloria. paano na yan e ipinagtatanggol niya si gloria? hahahaha! ang husay!
mabuhay ka tirador at lahat ng kasama mo!
hahaha!!! si tirador may bagong gimik!!! tignan natin kung magiging obssessed sumagot hahaha!!! tirador ikaw ba yan? SOPLAK! hahaha! bat hindi ka na ulit sumagot pagkatapos mo mapahiya? hahaha si lolo kung anu-anong ginagawa para makagulo, copy-paste, copy paste ng copy-paste para hindi mabasa ng iba yung pagkakasoplak niya, eh puro anonymous na lang din ginagamit eh. tas pupurihin yung sarili niya. hahaha, all of a sudden may honorable mention na lang si idol sa pagkagulo gulo na ng message corner dahil sa copy paste. hahaha! nasundan pa yung istorya ni tirador hahaha. BOPOLS! hahaha SOP-LAK! SOP-LAK! SOP-LAK! mabuhay ang idol na SOPLAK! hahaha!!! sabagay kawawa naman yan si tirador kasi nga sabi niya matanda na siya, baka nag-uulyanin na.
PEKE ka PEKE hahaha.
makapunta nga muna sa Hacienda Luisita. Corita samahan mo naman ako hahaha!!! epal pasi ugok. Barado naman dahil pang-bobo yung istilo hahaha!!!
Oo nga all of a sudden may lumabas na lang na ganun. halatang halata gimik mo tsong. It's either pakulo or talagang ignorante. Pero Sabi nga, siya na ang papalit kay Boy Abunda. Pero ang galing nya no, lahat ng karahasan, alam. Ba't hindi kasali yung Hacienda Luisita, Si Bobby Dacer, tsaka Kuratong Baleleng hehe, forget na lang muna siguro backfire eh. . biruin mo iidolohin puro tsismis lang ginawa wala namang ibidinsiya. Pag hindi kaya yung tinatanong sa kanya magtitsismis o kaya mag-aala-mongoloid- "bati tayo tiba, wag mo ato awayin kachi magkakampi tayo" HEHE kahit batang uguhin hindi mauuto ng style na mabaho eh. Kunsabagay walang utak kaya akala niya may mabobola siya. Meron daw fan si bugok? aba eh read between the lines kung anong klaseng tao yung nabola hehe. Ako din may alam alangan namang sila lang. Si Tirador, mapanganib pala yang taong yan kasi miyembro pala yan ng mga terorista na. Hindi lang komunista ha, terorista na hawak ng mga pulitikong gustong pabagsakin ang gobyerno dahil hindi sila makapangurakot. Tapos marami pang mga tao na inutusang magbintang o siraan ang lahat ng hindi nila nakukumbinsi. inuunahan na nila ng paninira yun yung strategy na ginagamit nila. Ganun ang Courses sa Ping Academy. Malaki ang talent fee ang ibinabayad sa mga kasali sa academy. kaya yan kita mo may mga taong nagsasabing "bayaran". Yun kasi ang kabilin bilinan. Ikalat yung salitan bayaran. So tuwing may magsasabi nun alam nyo na. "Bayaran Ka" modus operandi. Yun naman pala sila yung binabayaran. mga BAYARAN!! hehe
Oi, tatabunan nya ulit ng sangkatutak na copy and paste tas panggap ulit, sabihing idol yung sarili para yung makakabasa hindi malaman na nagmukha siyang bata. dalawa lang yan mga bro it's either si anonymous or new name will continue the stupidity. hehe! yahoooo!!!
it is so obvious that this is authored by an arroyo-administration puppet...
what makes jun lozada an even more credible witness is that he never denied being dirty... he said he was in the midst of the deal that's why he knew what really happened... he spoke up when there was an attempt in his life... kung nagmamalinis sya, mas kaduda-duda yung testimony nya..
Chorva! may death threat daw pero pasyal ng pasyal. Magaling daw sa electroni chuvanes pero hindi nagpapalit ng simcard. Yohooo! best actor!
Eto pa, technical guy daw siya pero di nya ma explain pano na delete mga messages nya. eh di naman pwede mangyari yun kung di mo i delete ang mga messages mo eh. Halatang may mga tinatago to si jun lozada eh...baka mabuking mga text nila ni pingky.
Tawag nyo ba jan inter-faith rally? eh puro galit at condemnation ang lumalabas sa bibig nyo. Ambabait nyo rin, ginagamit nyo pa yung diyos. Pabuhat buhat pa kayo ng krus eh puro galit lang naman yung nakasulat. Igalang nyo naman yung diyos wag nyong gamitin yung pangalan nya para lang may magandang pangalan yung panghuhusga nyo. Yan ba ang itinuturo ni Kristo? andami nyong sermon sa amin noon na dapat hindi kami manghuhusga ng kapwa tapos pinangungunahan nyo ngayon. pag kayo pwede? SUS! DOUBLE STANDARD! marami na ang nawawalan ng respeto sa mga kaparian at obispo dahil sa ginagawa nung mga bishop dun sa rally. Dapat ang itawag nyo jan INTER-HATE rally, dahil pinagsama samang relihiyon at grupo ng mga haters yan.
Bishop Bacani, ganyan ba talaga ang dapat nating gawin kapag may accusations sa isang tao? dapat sinabi nyo yan sa amin noon nung naakusahan kayo ng sexual harrassment. Para hindi na namin sinuspend yung judgment namin, para ki-nondem din namin kayo. Tutal ganon naman pala ang gusto nyo ngayon. Mapanghusga pala kayo, ni hindi kayo namimili ng salita nyo. nakaka turn-off. very unbecoming of a bishop. Kayo ang bishop namin sa Diocese dati. pero ipinagtanggol ka namin sa bintang sayo, Ikaw naman pala mapag-bintang din. magdahan-dahan ka naman. ni hindi ko na magawang mag-opo sayo papaano naman kasi ang galing ng example mo. sige ako naman ang husgahan mo, magaling ka naman pala jan alagad ng diyos.
Yey ang galing ng inter-faith rally, maraming delegation na galing sa mga RAKISTANG BLACKY! mga RAKISTA para sa KATOTOHANAN. hekhek imbitahan daw ba. Hoy, mga organizers bantayan nyong mabuti yan marami ng magandang ginawa sa bayan yang mag yan, tulad ng mag-rambulan at mag-vandalize. Pero siguro pumunta talaga sila para sa adhikain hindi para sa BANDA noh? palagay nyo? RAKISTA! ASTIG MGA RAKISTA KONTRA KORAPSIYON.
To the many "anonymous" posters (and this blog's owner):
I promised a friend that I won't dignify this blog with a comment, but you *disgust* me. Even this blog disgusts me. Show yourselves: tell the world who you are. You are not patriots: you hide under the skirt of your country's flag and your anonymity and proclaim yourselves "heroes?"
I dare you to censor this comment: DAMN YOU. I have better four-letter words than "damn," but even those are too good for you. Do you hide under the veil of anonymity? Do you hide under the veil of ignorance? Or do you just hide?
You call yourselves patriots? Thomas Jefferson once wrote: "The tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Go figure it out.
Marck Ronald Rimorin
http://marocharim.com
@Marck Ronald Rimorin said...
To the many "anonymous" posters (and this blog's owner):
I dare you to censor this comment: DAMN YOU. I have better four-letter words than "damn," but even those are too good for you. Do you hide under the veil of anonymity? Do you hide under the veil of ignorance? Or do you just hide?
Question: Does this apply to both anti and pro gloria anonymous posters here? Or is it only for those stupid dogs of the GMA administration.
Because you know, I am with you but I find it easy to leave a message here without making an account. I dont want to bother making one and yes I dont want to reveal myself.
@Marck Ronald Rimorin
I pity you for living in a country where law has not been heard of yet, it seems.
I hail from a democratic country where no man is above the law. We abide by the constitution - a gift from our parents who were oppressed but fought for and won the very democracy we now enjoy. It happened in EDSA, and as a show of gratitude and respect, we acknowledge these institutions - the fruits of my parent's labor - and let the LAW RULE at all costs.
Do not DEMEAN democracy and equate it to street rallies. Sabi nga ng prof ko sa UP, we never learned from People Power at all because until now, we still resort to street rallies.
I checked your post in your website and sadly, you're just one of those youth who speak much and think less.
There is no absolute truth, but the "version of truth" BACKED UP BY EVIDENCE is CLOSEST to that absolute truth. Testimony and accusation based on hearsay do not count as evidence.
You're blaming GMA for a divided nation, for not having a "Strong Republic"? I'll give you a reason why she should stay as President: BECAUSE THE LAW DOESN'T SAY OTHERWISE. You accuse her of cheating, well let me ask you this, what did you do about it besides shouting in the streets? You boast about your number, but you can't come up with enough evidence to indict her and impeach her? Now you resort to ousting her even if majority of us Filipinos (and by that I mean Luzon, Vizayas and Mindanao) wants her to finish her term unless the law says otherwise? Is GMA to blame for a divided nation? You guys can't even come up with a definite plan after ousting GMA - SNAP ELECTION ... seat VP DE CASTRO ... seat ERAP ... seat PUNO as head of the "caretaker government" - you guys are nuts. You anti-GMA people are divided yourselves. And you're blaming GMA for it ... geeze.
We, the civilized Filipinos, unite under the rule of law. GMA will, should and must stay until 2010 unless the law says otherwise. Nagkakaisa kami dito.
As for Lozada, don't even get me started. Pwede ba, you guys are like kids for justifying his "permissible $65M" corrupt self by saying that at least he's honest enough to confess that he himself is corrupt. You're giving Lozada a clean slate for being a prodigal son? If he's really sincere then he should exude humility, stand alongside the guilty ones and drop the messianic act.
Oh btw, Marck Ronald Rimorin, only stupid people publish their real name on public forums like this one. This is not friendster or multiply. It is tantamount to riding a train full of strangers with your name written on your forehead with a permanent marker.
Just be sure that intelligence can be associated to your name. Drop the "taga-UP ako" egotism dahil madami kaming taga-UP dito.
Marck Ronald Rimorin, you think you're brave for daring us and saying "damn you?" *CHUCKLES* or should I say LOL, that is all you get from the ANONYMOUS me ... :)
These rabidly anti-GMA people are so funny. If you all claim to have the "TRUTH" on your side, if you have the numbers, your bishops, etc. THEN BY ALL MEANS, GO AND OUST HER. Surely having all that, matatanggal nyo na sya sa Malacanang?
The bottom line is, in the continuing absence of any solid proof she has been involved in major wrongdoing, I have no doubt GMA will finish her term in 2010.
And what makes you anti-GMA people so angry is that deep down inside, you know that too.
^^galing mo tsong,I DEFINITELY AGREE. I dont know whoever you are pero sigurado ko sasabihin ng makakabasang galit na galit kay GMA binayaran ka rin o kaya naman walang pakialam sa bayan, pwede ring sabihan ka na lang ng "damn you" di ba?. Baka nga naman ay mga psychic sila, tama ba hula nila sayo? or else ganon pa din, following the latest trend ng basehan ng facts- ACCUSATIONS. Antay mo lang...
sa lahat ng putang inang word na narinig ko galing kau Lozada, mag sama sama sila sa Hell ng mga Madre at Pari na kasama nya. ONE BIG FAT LIAR.
Ok si Tirador ah... sarcastic! Hehe...
Ei... huwag na kayo mainis kay Tirador... papansin lang 'yan. Akala niya cute siya. Pagbigyan niyo na... talo naman kasi eh. Kahit ano pang pagngangangawa ang gawin niya dyan... di natitinag si PGMA sa kanyang puwesto. Presidente pa rin si Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo ng Pilipinas. ASTIG!
Sa mga anti-GMA...ok lang, we respect your opinions... we all live in a free and democratic country, don't we...?
Sa mga pro-GMA naman... pang-ilang Title-bout defense na ba napanalunan natin? Kaya inis ang mga yan eh... mantakin nyo, para silang mga Mexicano...laging talo sa Pambansang Kamao! Kahit sino o ano pa itapat nila sa 4'11" na boksingera natin...talo na naman sila! Umabot sa 12th round... ala man lang kahit knockdown... wahuhuhu!
Now, the much-vaunted LOZADA "TRUTH???" CARAVAN is fast losing steam. As expected. His 15 minutes of fame (some say 'infamy') is finally up. Ika nga sa kanta ng mga Von Trapp: "So long, farewell... adieu, adieu, adieu..."
Makakalimutan na rin yan in a few weeks' time. Aaaww. Too bad. Sinungaling kasi. Pa-starring masyado. Daig pa si Gary V sa campus tour nya.
Fearless forecast ko...in about a year's time, iiwan na yan ng asawa niya (si Violeta) at nang kabit nya (si Marissa)... at ang bago niyang uuwian? Yung madre ng Concordia College na na-in-love sa kanya.
Eeeewww! (Spare us the details, puh-lleeezzz!)
Check this link out na lang:
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/mindfeeds/mindfeeds/view_article.php?article_id=122511
Mr. blog owner, ang hirap po buksan...
Uncivil society
Editorial, Manila Standard
SO-CALLED civil society groups have been enthralled with whistleblower Rodolfo Lozada, ever since his teary-eyed testimony about high-level bribery and corruption in the canceled national broadband network contract.
These groups, led by the Black & White Movement, have somehow managed to overlook his shortcomings, the most serious of which was his initial denials that he had met secretly with opposition Senator Panfilo Lacson several times before he surfaced as a “surprise witness” at the Senate hearings.
The Black & White Movement has also blithely ignored the fact that it was Lozada who initiated efforts to bribe a top Cabinet official with millions of pesos to get him to defect and testify against the administration. Or that he had peddled his testimony to other senators, while professing his reluctance to testify before the Senate.
None of these contradictions matter. Those blinded by self-righteous anger see Lozada only as a hero to be lionized, held up as an example to our youth, paraded as a symbol of truth and courage—and “protected” by prayers.
In its rush to judgment, the Black & White Movement has found allies among priests and nuns and organized masses “for truth and accountability” at which Lozada addresses the congregation after the religious rite. These politically colored speeches are typically followed by the singing of activist songs and the raising of clenched fists.
But now there are signs that Lozada has overstayed his welcome, both on the national stage and in the churches. Bishops—including those who have been outspoken critics of the administration—have ordered priests to stop holding masses for the witness-turned-activist, explaining reasonably that the sacrament of the mass should never be used for any political purposes.
One religious leader, Ricardo Cardinal Vidal of Cebu, had drawn the ire of the Black & White Movement for making this very point. In a statement dripping with sanctimonious outrage, the group called Vidal a “congressman in a cassock” for using his pastoral authority to prevent 300 priests in Cebu from celebrating mass for Lozada, “without benefit of explanation.”
The statement then denounces Vidal for denying “the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist to a Catholic.”
This is utter nonsense.
As far as we can tell, Mr. Lozada may hear mass anywhere he wishes. He simply cannot use the pulpit as a soapbox for his political attacks, nor may priests use the church as a venue for such activities. How difficult is it to discern the difference?
The Black & White Movement says the cardinal “prefers partisanship” over prudence, but by its own rabid attack proves that it is guilty of the very same crime.
When religious leaders support their cause, they are welcomed as allies and defenders of truth and justice. When they disagree, they are to be condemned out of hand as agents of the government. Where is the truth and accountability in such a blind, unreasoning stand?
If the Black & White Movement exemplifies what it means to be in a civil society, being uncivil might not be so bad.
Focus on the integrity of Jun Lozada
by Alvin Capino, Manila Standard
Whistle-blower Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada Jr., our favorite “drama king” and the star of the long- running reality series titled “The ZTE/NBN mystery deal,” is at it again.
He was seen on TV shedding copious tears once again in what appears to be another attempt to get public sympathy.
He says he is miserable at the sacrifices and sufferings that his family is undergoing as a result of his political crusade.
He recounts that as a result of his being a whistle-blower, one of his children did not graduate with honors as expected at De La Salle-Greenhills. Another son was not allowed to attend a year-end activity also at De La Salle because of the complaints of the parents of a classmate.
(Shame on De La Salle Greenhills if these incidents related by Lozada are true. And shame on Lozada if he is making up these stories to get sympathy considering the all-out support that the Christian Brothers of De La Salle had given him.)
He also says his wife has to undergo counseling because of the psychological trauma she is going through.
Those already chary of Lozada’s histrionics would be suspicious that the latest outburst from him is probably meant to soften the adverse impact on him of the joint pastoral letter titled “Towards a Morally Rebuilt Nation” signed by Cardinal Gaudencio Rosales and 14 other bishops of the Metropolitan Ecclesiastical Province of Manila.
Lozada can’t help feeling alluded to by the very first paragraph of the pastoral letter which says the “social and political mess” the country is experiencing “goes beyond the question of truth to the search for probity.” The pastoral letter explains: “Probity is about the integrity of all, the accuser and the accused.”
The pastoral letter clearly calls for a close look at the integrity, honesty and uprightness of Lozada as an accuser. Lozada should indeed cry because it appears he would not pass the test if his record were scrutinized.
It would seem that unlike some of his Jesuitical supporters, the bishops who signed the pastoral letter do not agree with Lozada’s “permissible zone of corruption” theory. Here, Lozada wants people to believe the apparent anomalous acts he committed as president of the government-owned Philippine Forest Corp. are permissible and condonable.
The “permissible corruption” that Lozada wants people to overlook include getting insurance for the corporation from his wife, awarding multi-million contract to his brother, giving government land to his brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, cousins etc. Lozada is also being accused of many other cases of graft and corruption at the Philippine Forest Corp. as well as in his capacity as National Economic and Development Authority “consultant.” Clearly he will fail the probity test, hence the tears.
Lozada should stop using his family to get sympathy. All his doleful stories about the effect of his crusade on his wife and sons sound hollow and contrived after his virtual admission of the existence of his second family. Apparently, he has also sired children who are now about the same age as his children with his first wife. Again it is his integrity that is in question on this issue of his having a second family.
Lozada should realize that testifying at the Senate is one thing and going around the country and starring at political rallies is something else. Testifying at the Senate is a civic duty but he is already a politician when he goes around to join rallies where he advances the political agenda of the opposition.
Therefore, he should not be surprised if the Catholic bishops distance themselves from him and his political crusade.
Last week, Novaliches Bishop Antonio Tobias backed out of a scheduled “Mass for Truth” for Lozada at the St. Peter’s The Apostle Church in Quezon City. There was also a report that Catholic priests in the archdiocese of Cebu are under orders not to celebrate mass for Lozada.
Church leaders are starting to see through Lozada and what he really is and apparently they are already refusing to be used by him. Many of them must have heard the wire-tapped conversation between Lozada and businessman Joey de Venecia which spliced or not gave them an insight of the character of the two ZTE/NBN whistle-blowers.
Lozada has reportedly threatened to leave the Catholic Church because of the lackadaisical support being given to him by Catholic bishops. According to reports, he has threatened to join Bro. Eddie Villanueva’s “Jesus is Lord” Church.
If indeed Lozada made that statement, then he should already do what he has threatened to do. Lozada will find a kindred spirit in Villanueva who sees nothing right and everything wrong with the Arroyo administration.
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My column last Friday, March 14 got jumbled up. There were two topics in the column, one on comments on the inquisition going on at the Senate in connection with the ZTE/NBN deal and the other was on Makati Mayor Jojo Binay. The tail end of the first topic got mixed up with the first paragraphs of the second topic and parts were deleted in the process.
Here’s how the garbled part of the column should have read:
“For me, the most ridiculous statement in Tuesday’s hearing came from Senator Kiko Panglinan who threatened to cite [witness Leo] San Miguel for contempt because of his supposed evasive answers.
“The problem of Pangilinan and the other senators who appear to already have closed mind is that for them evasiveness is defined as answers not consistent with the tall tales of earliers witnesses Dante Madriaga, Joey de Venecia, and of course Jun Lozada.
“In history there is a body that can be likened to the present Senate probers. Like the Senate the members of this group would only accept answers that they like and they would torture a “witness” if he gives contrary response.
“I believe the original full name of this group is “Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Universal Inquisition.
@ Mark Ronald Rimorin
You think, you can enter a room and bash people just because they talk about political issues without revealing their names to each other? You are an arrogant idiot. I visited your site and read that you chose to justify your case on your blog instead,haha.. (brave daw)You can't even answer the questions posted to you by someone who challenged you here. You just mentioned another unproven accusation against people. Well, I hope that person visited your blog. There's no indication, if he did, he could have seen how lousy you argued about it, or maybe he didn't bother to answer because it's worthless. haha, come on, dignify me, dispute me. Hey, 22 year old UP student from Bagiuo, Mark Ronald Rimorin, who writes a lot on cyberspace, invite your readers to see what I wrote for you and bash me in your articles to vindicate yourself, but dont just choose some parts of my message for you, take it all. Too bad, it's just another anonymous fella who does not believe in your doctrine about anonymity. You know, if you have a problem with people like poorstupidboy_69 because you have invented some sort of moral guidelines, well those people well may or must not like you either. And uhmm, dude, you think highly of yourself to the point of belittling other people just to show youre good or superior perhaps. But I dont think so,you are simply an arrogant braggart. That is the price of saying "damn you" Mark Ronald Rimorin. That is the price. btw, can I call you now, stupid? since you admitted being stupid? ok, so long stupid!
You’re damn right, Patriots4Truth: damn you.
I’m not here to defend Jun Lozada, nor am I here to praise him. As I said before, Lozada’s testimony is nothing more than icing on the cake, just another reason in that long list of reasons for Gloria Arroyo to remove herself - or be removed - from office. Her legitimacy is in question. Her character is in question. Which basically means that her leadership is in question.
While we’re on the subject of questions, let me ask you a simple question: who are you?
I’m sure you would prefer not to mention who you are, other than the fact that you’re “Anonymous” or you are “Patriots.” Maybe your patriotism is an excuse for your anonymity. OK, let’s settle for that. How could I, a citizen of a free country who has the inalienable right to information, be able to make a fair assessment about the Jun Lozada issue if I do not know who you are?
Let me now proceed to descend into madness by answering accusations from faceless people.
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If Lozada is proven to be corrupt beyond suspicion: by all means, send him to jail. You can even garrote him in Quirino Grandstand, for all I care. If we all stand against massive corruption in the government, I say we bring back capital punishment; let’s make plunder, corruption, and graft crimes punishable by death.
I almost forgot: justice is very selective in the Philippines. While you flog and flay a Jun Lozada in a public forum, you refuse to lay a single finger on that other suspected corrupt government official, the President herself. Why? “Because there is no alternative to GMA.”
Since when? So you’re telling me that when she committed that infamous “lapse in judgment” years ago, she did it because “there was no alternative?” I’ll give you alternatives to the President that I’m sure you will dispute. I’m sure you will disagree with me that the Vice President, the Senate President, the president of your local women’s club, the president of the jeepney association, are alternatives to Mrs. Arroyo. There is no such thing as “no alternative.”
You say your parents fought at EDSA. Mine did, too. They pushed for alternatives to Marcos at a time when “there was no alternative to Marcos.” Why can’t we do the same? Since when did GMA become the permanent President of the Philippines?
As Rousseau writes: “The strongest is never strong enough to be always the master, unless he transforms strength into right, and obedience into duty.” This is the backbone of the social contract. Mrs. Arroyo has transformed strength into might, and obedience into passivity. She has violated the social contract: EO 464, emergency powers, political killings, media violence, holiday economics, and the “mere” fact that she “protected her votes” in 2004.
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“Anonymous” claims that we can’t oust GMA, much less can GMA remove herself from office, because “the law does not say otherwise.” He/she asks: “What did you do about it, save for shouting in the streets?”
Pardon the childish retort: what did YOU do about it?
I shouted in the streets demanding for justice and fairness because my vote was compromised. My future was jeopardized. Why? It was the only thing I can do: to exercise my Constitutionally protected right to voice out my discontent.
You, on the other hand, tolerated it. You allowed it to happen. In your blind, passive, non-critical support of the President who can do no wrong, you allowed this to happen. You exercised your right to remain silent. Here’s the strange part: you were never arrested. You cannot invoke the right to remain silent when you are free. When your freedoms are violated, you should be anything but silent, much less anonymous.
So I guess I cannot blame the President for everything after all. Let’s face it: as a “savage anti-GMA fanatic,” I only have YOU to blame for this. Now doesn’t that suck? You, in your search for truth and in all your bravado of patriotism, allowed the President to call a COMELEC official, allowed her to “protect her votes,” and in effect, you are allowing her to hush up over the NBN-ZTE deal.
How patriotic of you. What a hero you are. Shame on you. No, to reiterate, damn you.
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Which brings me to those two words. I did not “invent” that “moral code.” You know why you feel so insulted with a “Damn you?” Because it burns in deep, dude. It hits you right on the spot. I’m not asking you to back up your version of the truth: I’m demanding that you stand by your version of the truth. That you man up to it. At this point, you don’t. You can’t own up to any accusation you hurl, while you demand Lozada to own up to his own faults. You are a spineless coward.
Do you think I would benefit from anything or gain popularity by using my real name? Like I said, I did not “invent” that “moral code.” I did not invent what people like Conrad de Quiros, Alex Magno, Cristy Fermin, Lolit Solis, Jun Lozada, and even Gloria Arroyo have in varying degrees. Not bravery, but integrity. You sir, in your preference to play on the irony of my use of the word “stupid,” do not display a shred of integrity.
You see, it’s so easy to hurl accusations against somebody while you hide under the skirt of your own anonymity. It’s so easy to accuse, knowing that you don’t have to be accountable to anybody outside of the cashier at your P20-an-hour Internet shop. You accuse me of arrogance? You dare accuse me of lousy argumentation? You dare mock me with your Kindergarten command of the English language? Your version of humility disgusts me. Your arguments are devoid of style and substance. Your mockery holds no more meaning for me than what pleasure you find in kissing the figurative, non-literal, metaphorical buttocks of the President.
That is not the price of insulting me, Mr. Anonymous. Consider that a freebie. It has been my distinct displeasure writing this entry, knowing that I have just wasted time on a socio-political amoeba like you.
- Marck
Typical UP student, what's new?
^^sobra ka naman magsalita, hindi naman lahat ng UP student ganyan. May mga mayabang lang talagang katulad nyan ni marck. Minsan ganyan talaga, ang taas kasi ng tingin sa sarili. Kahit ikaw pa ang pinakamatalinong Pilipino dapat matuto kang rumespeto. Kunsabagay, kung makapagsalita sa kapwa Pilipino ay parang wala ring pinag-aralan. Hay naku,sa tingin ko pare ikaw ang panira sa lipunan higit pa sa sinumang kausap mo. Para kang basag-ulo. warfreak ka. gusto mo away agad eh pwede ka namang magpahayag ng saloobin ng walang kaaway, yan tuloy, tablado ka. No wonder nga sigaw ka ng sigaw sa kalye. sobra makapanglait pag nasapal mo hindi mapakali, hindi matanggap kaya ganyan na lang ang galit. Nagmumukha ka tuloy "sour loser".
-Warly Boy Tusoc
wow! what a small world. I'm surprised, I'm just checking this site and whoa! you made yourself infamous. "sour loser" kasi mukhasim? hehe. But it is no surprise kung makahanap ka nga ng kaaway. Well, I also want to express my discontent kay GMA dito kaya lang eh agaw-eksena ka dito. Ganyan talaga yan. Lagi kong nakikita yan e. Kung sinu-sino ang tinitira, akala mo kung sino. tignan mo tuloy sagot ng tao sayo dito. Tigilan mo na kasi yung pang-aalipusta mo sa kung sinu sino, maski nga mga kakilala mo kung pagsalitaan mo ganun na lang. Para kang banal. Yoko ngang pakilala sayo, warfreak ka nga daw eh. Matapang daw talaga siya hintayin nyo na lang baka giyerahin tayo ng China eh mag-volunteer yan para lumaban. Hehe. Nagkaron ka rin ng oras no? yabang mo kasi. Kung talagang sa tingin mo wala silang kuwenta dito, if they are not worth it bakit ka patol na patol? ano ba talaga? papatol hindi, papatol hindi... make up your mind hehe. see you...
People:
Kung nasaktan man kayo, hinihingi ko po ang inyong pasensya at pag-unawa. Marami po akong natutunan sa inyo, at sana isa dito'y respeto.
Hindi ko po kayo pinipilit na intindihin ang sinulat ko dito, at lalung-lalo na pong hindi ko kayo pinipilit na maniwala o hindi sa kanino man, lalo na sa akin. Hindi ako naaaliw sa mga patutsada dito, ngunit hindi ko kailangang maaliw.
Ang sa akin lamang ay huwag sana nating hayaang maging bulag tayo sa mga pagkakamali at pagkukulang ng gobyernong ito. Kung hahayaan lamang natin na ganito ang mangyari sa bansa natin ay hindi lang tayo sa ZTE o sa Hello Garci pupulutin.
Alalahanin po natin na ang kinabukasan ng ating bansa ay nakasalalay sa ating mga Pilipino, hindi sa ating Pangulo. Ang paghahanap sa katotohanan sa isyung ito ay nakasalalay po sa atin, at hindi sa ating Pangulo.
At kung nanaisin po ninyong sirain ang pangalan ko, hahayaan ko na lang po kayong gawin ang gusto ninyo. Gawin niyo na po sa akin ang sa palagay ninyo'y nararapat. Di ko na siguro kailangang magpaliwanag pa, at di ko na siguro kailangang ipaliwanag ang mga sinabi ko.
Uulitin ko po: humihingi po ako ng paumanhin dahil sa tono ng sinulat ko. Hindi po ako humihingi ng paumanhin dahil sa mga sinabi ko, at sa kahulugan ng mga isinulat ko. Pinanindigan ko ang aking mga isinulat.
Hanggang dito na lamang po.
- Marck Ronald Rimorin
it will take going to new york and finding out. that is the source of joey perez perez a/k/a joey de venecia III's inspiration.
it's a school in new york, fairly near the rockefeller center by a graduate of a catholic school, the founder of the national christian democrats of the philippines and bosom friend of joey's daddy, joe claveria perez a/k/a joe de venecia, jr.
the school is called school of magick.
at the third floor, where higher level students are instructed to go, the school turns into another thing altogether. the name of the school is changed from school of magick, to the house of satan.
the same christian democrat founder was the dean of the house.
now it's his son. and joe perez a/k/a joe de venecia, jr. was his prized teacher. who else? jose v. romero, now top official of the university of the asia and pacific. who else? amado luis and angel lagdameo. amado was former dotc secretary; angel, as we know, is the president of the catholic bishops' conference of the philippines or cbcp.
on nov. 27, 2007, joe perez a/k/a joe de venecia, jr. (real father: former speaker eugenio perez of pangasinan), had a very closed door meeting at pope pius xii at united nations ave. with archbishop lagdameo, bishop gabby reyes, cong. roy golez, sen. aquilino pimentel, others. they did not talk.
instead, they held a black mass. these prominent icons in society held a black mass in pope pius xii center in u.n.
2 days after fr. robert was in ayala ave. praying supposedly for gloria to be gone from kingdom come.
and trillanes, joe perez' own cousin, mila hombrebueno -- the girl from the communist group who bore communist founder joma sison a child -- dong nemenzo, and tito guingona took over manila peninsula.
now they call themselves n29m- november 29 movement. n29m and all the rest of the movements BNWM, BNAM, MRM are all satanic inspired. thanks to the headquarters of the house (coven) of satan in new york. all these people are appropriately infected.
let us pray and close our ranks that our souls will not be snatched by these evil people whose propaganda is to make others appear evil when in fact, they are the ones blatantly worshipping the diabolical lusiper-satanaz!!!!
need we say more?
Yan ang truth! Isipin ninyo, demonyo pala si Bishop Angel Lagdameo at Bishop Gabby Reyes. Siempre ang tunay na maka-diyos yung mga maka-Gloria.
Black Mass kasama dalawang Bishops at dalawang lawmakers? Devil worship sa Pope Pius XII!
Kaya nga sabi ko dito sa Patriots for Truth lahat lang nang katotohanan ang lumalabas. Meron pang ebidensiya.
Pwe! Sira ulo ng maniniwala dito!
ibalik si erap para sigradong walang kurapsiyon na magaganap! iboto si Lacson sa pakapresidente para madaling patayin ang mga sumasalungat sa gobyerno! mabuhay ang mga komunista! mabuhay ang mga terorista at mga aktibista, para laging masaya sa kalsada, laging may aksiyon. magreklamo tayo ng magreklamo! mabuhay tayong mga reklamador! GALITIN NATIN ANG MGA MAKAPANGYARIHANG BANSA PARA MAGKAGIYERA!MAGWALA TAYONG LAHAT! PAKYUHIN NATIN ANG MGA MAKA-GLORIA! MABUHAY TAYONG MGA REKLAMADOR TAYO ANG PAG-ASA NG PILIPINAS AT NG BUONG MUNDO! MABUHAY SI LOLO! HEHE KAKAMPI KO SI LOLO! PWE! PWE! DAHAK! PWE!
Alam nyo, maraming pilipino ang patay gutom at hampaslupa, gaya na lang ng mga putang ina nilang jun lotada at joey de bengesiya, samahan mo pa ng mga hampaslupang mga pawn at bishop gaya nila, tobias, oscar jueteng cruz, ung rapis na bacani, at ung makahayop na running priest, kasama n rin jan ung mga malalanding madre, mangumpisal muna kayo sa Pope para mapatawad din kayo sa mga kahayupang pinaggagawa ninyo imbes n asikasuhin nyo muna ang mga spiritual needs ng mga parishioner nio pra mawala ang mga mgnanakaw sa mundo. turuan nio na muna ung mga sakop nio na maging maka Diyos para wlang lumabas na masama.
Oh? Asan na ba yang si jun? ZTE scam? Ha?! laos na yan!
Yung oil nanaman ang pag-problemahan natin! naku, mabubutas talaga ang mga bulsa ng tao...
Naku Jun?! you should've known better. Filipinos can never change if they don't get anything in return and i mean something that they can value...
Justice? Accountability? Human rights? For the many filipinos these are nothing more but words that make life seemingly a bit better... or so they thought.
Truth Mr. Lozada... if ever you want to make that impact show them they can gain something out of it.
...but for now yung oil muna ang ating problemahin at saka yung Rice cartels.
...Step aside Jun here comes the new face of controversy and reactionaries?!
A faulty EDSA Revolution, a lying President, a lying Lozada, a hypocrite or stealing politicians. The list goes on depending on which side we are on, whose alliances we should cling to. The TRUTH remains that there is something wrong and this string is proof that we can mudslide,curse and hurt each other but the condition and system remains as it is.Extreme poverty and uneducated lot. Why don't you just channel all your efforts and help the country progress for the next generation. PINOY TANGA KA BA?
Just because Mr. Lozada may be telling the truth doesn't mean he is a saint. He is also evil.
FILTHY
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